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Page 261 himself , but only in the context of something that was trying to do. DD BLANCHE: So when you say “involved ning like, give money to the Clinton Initiative or something like this? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, so there's that. think he did do that. And that, I believe, the money that he may have given could have been independent of me. But I think it's just easier if just tell you how it happened, rather than -- otherwise it sounds all odd and funky. I went to Davos with a former president and I -- have you been to Davos? n what? ELL: Have you been to Davos? TODD BLANCHE: have not. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. Well, you know, it's a -- you know what it is, right? Okay. So -- and I was -- I thought the former president should have his own Davos, because it would be -- and they had -- it turned out, that they had been thinking about it anyway. And so we were talking about it and, you know, it's a very heavy lift to get something like MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022804