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Page 270 TODD BLANCHE: And so for those three, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Spacey, and Ms. Campbell, did they ever travel to any of Mr. Epstein's properties; the island or New Mexico? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not Mr. Tucker -- well, not to my knowledge Mr. Tucker or Mr. Spacey. Naomi Campbell may have. TODD BLANCHE: To where? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She may have gone -- well, she certainly -- well, I believe she visited him in Palm Beach, and I believe she may have gone to the island and she may have gone to see his house in New York. Whether she went to New Mexico or Paris as well, maybe. They were friends or friendly. TODD BLANCHE: Were you -- what you just said "she may have," were you on those trips? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't have any independent memory of that, so I'm not sure. think so. TODD BLANCHE: Do you know -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Her relationship, her friendship, her -- I think you're making me use your word. Her -- her friendship, whatever, with Mr. Epstein was independent of me. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. But you also had a MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022813