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Page 292 GHISLAINE MAXWI : No, I never knew that and I can categoricall tate that had any child said to me that they wer 1 15, 16, maybe not 17, because 17 in England, I mean, if someone had said they were 17, I don't -- but I've read so much that that did happen. mean, I just -- I had no -- I would never have permitted such a thing, I would not -- don't even know what I would have done. TODD BLANCHE: So some of the -- I think even someone who testified at trial, but certainly have publicly talked about, was as young as 14 when she was introduced to Mr. Epstein. In -- in your mind today, you don't -- you kind of reject that that happened, that you saw that, meaning you don't recall any obviously under 18 woman coming to give him a massage? GHISLAINE ELL: Well, I believe you're talking about Jane, a TODD GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- very happy to address that. IT actually don't think that the testimony is correct. I don't believe -- TODD BLANCHE: Yeah, look, GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. No, MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022835