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Page TODD BLANCHE: GHISLAINE MAXWELL: t I'm talking about the first time she came to E tein's house, which I knew -- TODD BLANCHI! GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- to be from that first lie of that description, never recover from tha TODD BLANCHE: understand. Okay. So -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And that tainted -- sorry. Just so that we clear it, tainted, then, the tLimony of everybody else that I saw that came post t, because I had my own personal experience, which new to be false. TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. And the reason why think -- and I said to Mr. Markus that -- this morning that we were going to talk about this, because when I think about you and the public's perception of Mr. Epstein, the public is left with the view that nobody in the world knows what really happened except for you, okay? And now you've explained, the last day and a half, how some of that's just a misperception, because you weren't -- you didn't have a key to his house, you weren't around as much as maybe everybody MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022840