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present, but I've seen him on a massage -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Okay. GHISLAINE ELL: Sorry, I just -- TODD BLANCHE: Did you ever see him masturbate with a masseuse -- you know, with a naked woman, either giving him a massage or reporting to give him a massage? GHISLAINE : I don't remember seeing that. TODD BLANCHE: Did you give him massages by the way? I mean, there's a photo of you rubbing his feet, and I think, but GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I never -- I certainly have been in the massage room with him, and I have certainly rubbed his feet when he was -- we're talking, but I was not a masseuse and I didn't perform massage on him. TODD BLANCHE: Did you -- along -- during the years, did you pay the masseuses? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: It was typically not my job, but if there was nobody else, normally -- so in Palm Beach, the houseman would give the money. And in New York, he would do that, because wouldn't be in New York when he -- I mean, I don't remember ever paying a masseuse in New York. MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022848