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Page 327 memory of telling anybody about that. I think I may have joked like saying, oh my God, you know, like from a Sex and the City scene that, you know, he's -- but not -- I never instruct -- the question you're asking me, sorry, let's just be clear. Did I ever instruct anyone how to pleasure, Mr. Epstein, your question? No. TODD BLANCHE: And you said this earlier, but I want to just -- you kind of said it on your own. I want to ask the guestion, just so I'll make sure that there's no confusion. When -- when you over the years -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry, can I just -- TODD BLANCHE: yeah. Of course. Yeah, yeah, please. GHISLAINE MAXWI : Okay. Right. say, the idea that I would have to expl how to satisfy Mr. Epstein is patently because he clearly was able to explain He didn't need an interlocutor to explain what he liked. He's been doing this obviously or this -- some version of this story his whole life and did not require any help from me. TODD BLANCHE: Then -- so did you ever MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022870