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AAD OPFWNF DH OATH UBF WNY HE Page 233 I don't believe anyway. As far as I recollect, it wouldn't show me spending it. TODD BLANCHE: Right. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Does that make sense? TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I think if -- I don't think there's any dispute by anybody, even your lawyers at trial, that -- that that the money went in. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Oh, $7 million in when, what year? TODD BLANCHE: Well, there's several years; in 2007. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And? TODD BLANCHE: 2002, there was $5 million that you were paid in 2002. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Oh, well, I'd have to -- I don't -- I don't remember. But -- okay. So there's -- there would be another large sum, but it wouldn't have come from him later. But it had nothing to do -- TODD BLANCHE: The biggest one was in 1999. There's over $18 million. $18.3 million. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know what that TODD BLANCHE: So what -- but you -- Page 234 you're -- but what you're saying, it sounds like, and if you don't know, we're going to -- we can move on. But when we're talking about $18.3 million in '99, $5 million in -- three years later in 2002, $7.4 million in 2007. That -- those -- that money adds up to around $30 million. You were not paid that by Mr. Epstein. Meaning, that's not money you received for your benefit, even if it was put into your accounts. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't believe any of that was my money. Now, I do -- I just -- like I said, we did do these things -- TODD BLANCHE: Yes. I understand that. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: - - with the cars. TODD BLANCHE: I understand that. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And as -- TODD BLANCHE: But -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know if any of that money, some of it -- if it moves, some of that may have come from the car or a house that was sold that I had an interest in with him. That's possible. But I don't think this money is mine. LEAH SAFFIAN: But also, the record should reflect, too, that there were times Ghislaine's name was used, for example, Air Ghislaine. Her name was MAGNA®© ODr~wAnA OAR WNHeRF OCW WAIN OO PWN PB to 20 21 22 23 24 25 oO TN OA PWN EE Page 235 in the name of the entity. It had nothing to do with her. And if you pull signatures -- TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. LEAH SAFFIAN: -- there's no evidence for that. TODD BLANCHE: No. My -- what I'm trying to just make sure I -- that I understand, is that the idea that you were paid $30 million between '99 and 2007, in order to -- by Mr. Epstein to reward you for recruiting young women. That is in your -- you're saying that is categorically, completely false? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That is categorically false, correct. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So I want to just -- we went through several individuals yesterday and I want to go through just a couple of more names and ask if you -- if you know them. And if you do know them, how you know them. Do you know Elon Musk? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do. TODD BLANCHE: And how did you meet Mr. Musk? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I met him in -- I don't remember the year, but it's going to be in 2010, '11, something like that, I think, if my memory Page 236 serves. And I was at an event for Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google. And Sergey had arranged for -- it was for his birthday. And we were -- or a bunch of us, I don't even remember how many we were, but not many of us. Maybe -- I don't know. IfI say 40, I could be wrong. If it was 30 or 50, I don't remember. I'm sorry. Went to another friend's island. Somebody called Mr. Pigozzi in the Caribbean and -- not with Epstein, he was not there, to celebrate Sergey's birthday. And we were there together for, I want to say, three or four days, something like that in my memory. And Mr. Musk was present for that. TODD BLANCHE: And that was the first time you met him, as far as you know? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: As far as I remember, yes. TODD BLANCHE: Did you meet -- did you know his brother, Mr. Musk's brother? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know if I've ever met him. I know that he has a brother and I don't think I met him. TODD BLANCHE: Aside from that time in -- 6 (Pages 233 to 236) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022921