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oO TN OA PF WN EF Page 273 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Jon and -- I can't think of his other child. I can't think of -- I mean, I've lost his name. LEAH SAFFIAN: Alexander. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Who? LEAH SAFFIAN: Alexander. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I met him, but just socially. He may not remember even having met me. I was excited to meet him. TODD BLANCHE: When are you thinking -- 10 when would you have met him? 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: IfI met him it -- I 12 think it was either at an event or at his kids -- it 13 wouldn't have been at his house. An event, I 14 think -- or I think actually, no, in the Hamptons I 15 met him. He was staying at somebody's house. If -- 16 if my memory serves. 17 TODD BLANCHE: And what was your 18 relationship? How did you know his kids? 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I was out and about in 20 New York a lot. 21 TODD BLANCHE: So just socially? 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Just socially, yes. 23 And -- yeah, just socially, I think. 24 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know -- do youknow 25 Page 274 onwtrn Oe WN EP Xe] whether Mr. Soros or his kids ever traveled on Mr. Epstein's planes? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't think so. TODD BLANCHE: Ever visit either the island or New Mexico or -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No, I don't think so. TODD BLANCHE: Paris? No? Okay. So I -- we tried to -- to identify names that have come up, either publicly or in -- in other lawsuits. Are there any names that you -- that come to mind that we haven't, we've talked about a lot of names. A lot of names. Are there some folks that you think we've forgotten to ask you about? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, you asked me about names and I have some names, and I just want to give you some context for the names as well. TODD BLANCHE: Sure. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So we talked about Elizabeth Johnson yesterday. TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She had a boyfriend and he was Frederic Fekkai, the hairdresser. And he and Epstein were friendly, very friendly. TODD BLANCHE: And then what time period OAD OP WNYHRF OW OHI DO BWN EH BO NMNM NN DW ?t ar WNYNRF OW are you talking about? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well -- TODD BLANCHE: Like '90s, or 2000s, or both? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think the 2000s, actually, for that. You can date that because it was from when he -- I think he probably knew Frederic before he dated Elizabeth. But -- TODD BLANCHE: And when you say they were very friendly, did they go -- did they travel together? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know if they traveled together, I mean, Epstein didn't go out very much or -- I mean, he did go out, but not -- and sometimes if he did, I think he would go out and maybe see Fred- -- Frederic. And then there was -- I mean, he had a bunch of guys that he would -- I would know that he would see or meet, but he really -- I guess now -- so he had new friends. I -- I don't know, but -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. What other names? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay, so Henry Jarecki, who had an island near his. Henry was a financier who was the guy who cornered the silver market back in the day. Page 276 TODD BLANCHE: He had an island in the Caribbean -- in the Caribbean near Mr. Epstein? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah. In the British Virgin Islands. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And there was Branson's island there. Now I know that there's an allegation that they met. I -- I think -- I think I remember that I went to Richard Branson's island with Mr. Epstein, and maybe he went another time, but I don't -- I wouldn't characterize Richard Branson and him as friends, but he did go and I think I went with him. TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether Mr. Branson ever came to Mr. Epstein's island? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: If he did, I was not there. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So -- but it's possible, so -- TODD BLANCHE: Understood. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I wanted to ... TODD BLANCHE: Who else? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Marvin Minsky. He had a group of scientists that he was very, very friendly MAGNA® 16 (Pages 273 to 276) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022931