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OAFDHN OP WNYHRP DO WH OAD OB WN HE Page 333 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's about right. TODD BLANCHE: And then around like -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: A4. A4. We had A4, because it was done on heavy stock paper, but I can't remember if it was folio size paper, or it could have just been A4. TODD BLANCHE: OhI see. So it could have just been letter size, or it might have been legal Size -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: -- heavy stock paper. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: And the -- so the folks that submitted letters were given the stock paper or how were the letters -- or did you, like, glue or something the letters to the stock paper? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Every which way. Some 1 were given the paper and they did their own thing. Some would send me some scrap of paper and I would put it on the thing. Some I didn't get because they went straight to Epstein, and I was just told to put them in, like I said. TODD BLANCHE: And how was it bound? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: It went to a professional binder, who did it like a book that Page 334 you'd see in the library. TODD BLANCHE: So like the glue that keeps a regular book, a novel that you would read together, it was bound that way? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Like a -- I believe so. I don't think it was stitched, but I don't remember. I mean, it was professionally done by a professional bookbinder. TODD BLANCHE: And then after you presented it, or after it was presented to him when he turned 50, did you see the leather-bound book, did he keep it somewhere in particular? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: It was in his bookcase in 71st Street. TODD BLANCHE: In Manhattan? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: In Manhattan. TODD BLANCHE: And did you see it over the years until you stopped going to the brownstone? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I saw it -- [know I did see it, because it was right behind his desk. And after I stopped going, I don't know what happened to it. TODD BLANCHE: Do you know -- do you remember being told or knowing where the book is now? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. But I -- when I ODr~wAnA OAR WNHeRF OCW WAIN OO PWN PB NONMNNMNNN DNDN 1! OP WNHR OO BANOO BFWNHRrF OO WMAATHD OB WN EP N+ Oo wo Page 335 received in discovery those pages, I assumed that it had been found when either New York or the island was searched, and I assumed that the Southern District of New York had it. TODD BLANCHE: But I think you said yesterday. But just to go over it again, in case you remember anything differently. You recall seeing some of the letters in discovery. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do. TODD BLANCHE: But you don't recall kind of seeing the leather book, start to finish? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No, but remember, I didn't see all discovery because they were very clever about, you know, I didn't receive all discovery, period. And in fact, very important items were not given to me at all, including witness testimony from grand jury. TODD BLANCHE: So whether -- so you don't know one way or the other, whether it was part of discovery, you just know that you didn't get it. It wasn't part of the discovery that was given to you? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Correct. But there's a -- I am absolutely sure that the Southern District of New York hid very important pieces of evidence from me. Page 336 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And I assumed that they leaked it because where else would it be, if that's what it is. If it's true. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So I've -- just so I put -- I'll say it to you as I've talked a little bit to your lawyer about it. I said to you yesterday that the purpose of what we did yesterday and today was -- was exactly what we did, which is to have a conversation about Mr. Epstein and about you. And I think it's very challenging to talk about everything we talked about. And, you know, in one and a half days or in just a period of hours. So I'll talk to Mr. Markus about kind of what we're going to do next, if anything. There's no -- and I don't -- I'm not being coy or -- I just -- I don't know yet. I don't know. So we -- [have a lot of -- we have some work to do. We'll do it with your lawyers to the extent we have questions or follow-up. And this has been very helpful. I think it's -- 11 was you, you know, who kind of said you wanted to talk, but we gladly accepted it. So I do appreciate you being willing to meet with us. And I expect that we'll be in touch soon. All right. MAGNA® °°" LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022946