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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
CASE No. 08-80736-CIV-MARRA/JOHNSON
JANE DOE I AND JANE DOE 2,
Plaintiffs
v.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Defendant
INTERVENORS' REPLY TO JANE DOE #1 AND JANE DOES #2'S RESPONSE IN
OPPOSITION TO INTERVENORS' MOTION TO STAY
Intervenors' Motion for Stay Pending Appeal should be granted. Contrary to plaintiffs'
contentions, the Eleventh Circuit will have jurisdiction over their appeal from the Court's
disclosure order, and the standard for granting a stay pending appeal is amply satisfied in this
case.
I.
THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT WILL HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE
INTERVENORS' APPEAL UNDER THE PERLMAN DOCTRINE.
A.
Mohawk Does Not Affect the Operation of the Perlman Doctrine in this Case.
Plaintiffs first accuse intervenors of ignoring recent Supreme Court precedent which, in
their view, precludes an appeal by intervenors from this Court's order that correspondence
which they contend is privileged and confidential must be disclosed to plaintiffs. Opposition at
2-3. Intervenors did not, however, ignore controlling Supreme Court precedent, for the simple
reason that Mohawk Industries, Inc. v. Carpenter, 558 U.S. 100 (2009), does not affect the
intervenors' ability to take an appeal from this Court's disclosure order. There are two
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interrelated reasons why it does not. First, and most important, Mohawk involved an attempted
interlocutory appeal by a party to the litigation, which this case does not. Second, Mohawk was
concerned with an interlocutory appeal under the collateral order doctrine of Cohen v. Beneficial
Indus. Loan Corp., 337 U.S. 541 (1949), not with the Perlman exception to the final judgment
rule; indeed, it did not so much as mention Perlman. Those two distinctions are critical. In
analyzing the issue of whether a party was entitled under the Cohen collateral order doctrine to
appeal from an order compelling it to produce documents which it contended were protected by
the attorney-client privilege, the Mohawk Court emphasized that the Court had "stressed that [the
Cohen collateral order doctrine] must never be allowed to swallow the general rule that a party is
entitled to a single appeal, to be deferred until final judgment has entered." Mohawk, 558 U.S. at
106 (emphasis added; internal quotation marks omitted). See id. at 112 ("Permitting parties to
undertake successive, piecemeal appeals of all adverse attorney-client rulings would unduly
delay the resolution of district court litigation and needlessly burden the Courts of Appeals"
(emphasis added)). In holding that an interlocutory appeal would not lie, the Mohawk Court
concluded that
postjudgment appeals generally suffice to protect the rights of litigants and ensure the
vitality of the attorney-client privilege. Appellate courts can remedy the improper
disclosure of privileged material in the same way they remedy a host of other erroneous
evidentiary rulings: by vacating an adverse judgment and remanding for a new trial in
which the protected material and its fruits are excluded from evidence.
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Id. at 606-07 (emphasis added). This conclusion underscores that inapplicability of Mohawk in
the present circumstances. Quite unlike the Mohawk appellant, Mr. Epstein and the attorney
intervenors are not parties to the litigation, having intervened solely for the limited purpose of
seeking to prevent the disclosure of confidential communications; accordingly, they have no
right of appeal from the final judgment in this case, and the injury done by disclosure cannot be
remedied through the appellate remedy of granting of a new trial. Instead, in the absence of the
ability to take an appeal at this juncture, intervenors are "powerless to avert the mischief of the
order." Perlman, 247 U.S. at 13.
In cases such as this one, contrary to plaintiffs' argument, Perlman does not directly
conflict with Mohawk See Opposition at 3.In United States v. Krane, 625 F.3d 568 (9th Cir.
2010), a case not cited by the plaintiffs, the Ninth Circuit permitted an interlocutory appeal by
intervenors under Perlman, noting that it had, "[w]hen assessing the jurisdictional basis for an
interlocutory appeal, . . . considered the Perlman rule and the Cohen collateral order exception
separately, as distinct doctrines," concluded that "Perlman and Mohawk are not in tension." Id. at
572. In In re Grand Jury, 705 F.3d 133 (3d Cir. 2012), another case not cited by plaintiffs, the
Court concluded, after analysis, that it "[could] not say that the Supreme Court has abandoned
[the Perlman finality] determination on the basis of a later case, Mohawk, that never cites, let
alone discusses, Perlman").
The two cases on which the plaintiffs rely do not support the proposition that appellate
review under the Perlman doctrine is not available to intervenors in this case. In Wilson v.
O'Brien, 621 F.3d 641 (7th Cir. 2010), see Opposition at 3-4, plaintiff and the individual whose
deposition defendants wished to use to support a summary judgment motion sought to appeal,
under the Cohen collateral order doctrine, the district court's order compelling the individual to
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answer deposition questions over a claim of work product privilege. The Seventh Circuit did not
in fact decide the question of Mohawk's impact on Perlman, finding the appeal moot because the
deposed individual had complied with the order and answered the objected-to deposition
questions. Id. at 643. The Court noted that, if the district court did ultimately permit the
defendants to use the deposition testimony, plaintiff, who was the privilege holder rather than the
deponent, could appeal that decision after final judgment. Here, intervenors have no such remedy
available to them. Notably, the Wilson Court stated that "when the person who asserts a
privilege is a non-litigant," "an appeal from a final judgment [will] be inadequate."
In Holt-Ousted v. City of Dickson, 641 F.3d 230 (6th Cir. 2011), the plaintiffs sought to
take an interlocutory appeal from an order compelling the testimony of their former attorney over
a claim of attorney-client privilege. The Court agreed with the Ninth Circuit's decision in Krane,
concluding that the circumstances in Krane "support application of the Perlman doctrine
because, without the ability to raise the issue in an interlocutory appeal, Quellos, as a non-party,
would have lost its opportunity to do so in the future." hi. at 239. The same is true here. The
Court found no appellate jurisdiction, following Mohawk, because plaintiffs — the privilege
holders — were parties to the litigation and, as such, could avail themselves of a post-judgment
appeal to "preserve the vitality of the attorney-client privilege." Id. at 240, quoting Mohawk, 558
U.S. at 606-07. That, however, is not true here.
Neither Mr. Epstein nor the attorney intervenors are "litigants" or parties in this action,
and, under both Wilson nor Holt-Orsted, Mr. Epstein would retain the right to appeal under
Perlman. Plaintiffs seek to cast Mr. Epstein as a "litigant" in this action, but his limited
intervention to challenge disclosure of confidential communications does not make him a
litigant, i.e., a party, to the action, nor, contrary to plaintiffs' argument, does Mr. Epstein's
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"current posture" in this litigation provide him with an avenue "to appeal any adverse privilege
ruling that harms him at the conclusion of the case." Opposition at 4. There will be no "adverse
judgment against him," id. (emphasis added), from which he could take an appeal. Plaintiffs cite
no authority for the proposition that a non-party to the litigation can appeal from a final
judgment, and the law is to the contrary. See Marino v. Ortiz, 484 U.S. 301 (1988)("The rule that
only parties to a lawsuit, or those that properly become parties, may appeal an adverse judgment,
is well settled").
A "party" to litigation is "[o]ne by or against whom a lawsuit is brought." Black's Law
Dictionary 1154 (8th ed.2004). An individual may also become a "party" to a lawsuit by
intervening in the action. See id., at 840 (defining "intervention" as "[t]he legal procedure
by which ... a third party is allowed to become a party to the litigation").
United States a rel. Eisenstein v. City of New York, 556 U.S. 928, 933 (2009). Plaintiffs action
was not brought against Mr. Epstein, nor has be sought by intervention to become a party to the
action.' The Perlman doctrine is fully applicable in the circumstances of this case.
B.
Mr. Epstein and the Intervenors are "Privilege Holders" for Purposes of
Perlman.
The Perlman doctrine is not, as the plaintiffs contend, strictly limited to fully recognized
privileges such as the attorney-client privilege. The confidentiality/nondisclosure privilege for
which intervenors contend falls squarely within Perlman. Indeed, the Supreme Court has
recognized that "Rules 410 and 11(e)(6) `creat[e], in effect, a privilege of the defendant . . . ."'
United States v. Mezzanatto, 513 U.S. 196, 205 (1995). Contrary to the plaintiffs'
characterization, what Mr. Epstein and the attorney intervenors seek to appeal is not an issue of
Even if Mr. Epstein did decide to seek limited intervention at the remedy stage, should the
proceedings reach that stage, see Opposition at 4, he still would not become a party with
full rights to appeal from a final judgment in the case. Moreover, the attorney intervenors
have their own independent interests in the nondisclosure order, and they will never be
parties to the action.
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admissibility of evidence, see Opposition at 5, but one of disclosure: whether their confidential
communications with the government in the course of settlement/plea negotiations may be
ordered disclosed to third parties such as plaintiffs. See Intervenors' Motion for Stay Pending
Appeal (Doc. 193)("Motion"), Section I. The plaintiffs' arguments that Mr. Epstein is not a
privilege holder and that Perlman does not extend to cases in which the appellant will be arguing
for the recognition of a privilege, rather than asserting an existing one, are foreclosed by In re
Grand Jug Proceedings, 832 F.2d 554 (11th Cir. 1987). In that case, appellants asserted that
their state grand jury testimony was protected from disclosure to a federal grand jury by a
nondisclosure privilege grounded in the state grand jury secrecy requirement. The Court held that
it had jurisdiction to hear the appeal under Perlman, but concluded that the privilege for which
appellants contended did not exist. Thus, the fact that a privilege has not yet been formally
recognized is not a bar to Perlman jurisdiction. The controlling factor is whether the appellants
assert a right or privilege, see In re Sealed Case,
F.3d
2013 WL 2120157 at *4
March 5, 2013)("The Perlman doctrine permits appeals from some decisions that are
not final but allow the disclosure of property or evidence over which the appellant asserts a right
or privilege"), as they do here — the right or privilege of confidentiality in their settlement/plea
communications with the government and their concomitant protection from disclosure to the
plaintiffs. See, e.g., Ross v. City of Memphis, 423 F.3d 596, 599 (6th Cir. 2007)(Perlman
jurisdiction "does not depend on the validity of the appellant's underlying claims for relief'); Gill
v. Gulf:stream Park Racing =,
Inc., 399 F.3d 391, 398, 402 (1st Cir. 2005)(asserting
jurisdiction under Perlman, but concluding that informant privilege was not available to private
parties).
C.
Perlman is not Limited to the Grand Jury Context.
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The Eleventh Circuit has never limited Perlman to the grand July context, and there is no
principled reason why the doctrine should be so limited, so long as its requirements are met.
"[U]nder the . . .Perlman doctrine, a discovery order directed at a disinterested third party is
treated as an immediately appealable final order because the third party presumably lacks a
sufficient stake in the proceeding to risk contempt by refusing compliance." Church of
Scientology v. United States, 506 U.S. 9, 18 n.11 (1992). The danger to the privilege holder —
that privileged or confidential documents will be disclosed and his powerlessness to prevent the
disclosure absent an immediate appeal remedy — is the same, regardless of whether the order is
made in the context of grand jury proceedings or in another context. Only by referring solely to
Eleventh Circuit applications of Perlman "over the last fifty years," Opposition at 6, are the
plaintiffs able to ignore the fact that the Eleventh Circuit cited Perlman n support of its finding
of jurisdiction in Overby v. U.S. Fidelity & Guar. Co., 244 F.2d 158, 162 & n.5 (11th Cir. 1955),
a civil case. In just the few years since Mohawk, the Fourth Circuit found jurisdiction based on
Penman in a civil case, Mezu v. Morgan State University, 495 Fed. Appx. 286, 289 (4th Cir.
2012); the Ninth Circuit has applied Perlman in a case arising under 28 U.S.C. §2255, United
States v. Gonzalez, 669 F.3d 974, 977 n.2 (9th Cir. 2012), and in a civil case, S.E.C. v. CMKM
Diamonds, Inc., 656 F.3d 829, 830-31 (9th Cir. 2011); the Sixth Circuit has indicated in a civil
case that Perlman jurisdiction is still viable after Mohawk where the privilege holder is not a
party to the action, Holt-Orsted, 641 F.3d at 239; and the Seventh Circuit has indicated in a civil
case that Perlman jurisdiction still attaches where the person asserting the privilege is a non-
litigant, Wilson, 621 F.3d at 643.2 The grand jury limitation for which plaintiffs argue simply
does not exist.
2 Plaintiffs rely on the Tenth Circuit's lack of awareness that Perlman had ever been applied
outside the grand jury context, Opposition at 6, but a quick Westlaw search demonstrates that
Penman has often been applied outside the grand jury context. See, e.g., Gotham Holdings, LP v.
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D.
The United States is a Disinterested Third Party.
Under the circumstances of this case, the government, contrary to plaintiffs' argument,
Opposition at 7-8, must be considered a disinterested party for purposes of application of the
Penman doctrine. The government has never asserted a nondisclosure privilege with respect to
the settlement/plea negotiations between it and Mr. Epstein, and its intention not to assert such a
privilege is obvious from its Response to Petitioners' Motion to Use Correspondence to Prove
Violations of the Crime Victim's Rights Act and to Have Their Unredacted Pleadings Unsealed
(Doc. 60), in which, while noting that it was not conceding the admissibility of the documents,
the government states that it took no position on the portion of plaintiffs' motion seeking to use
the correspondence in this action. Id. at 1-2. The government is not, therefore, contrary to the
plaintiffs' contention, "actively litigating in opposition to the victims' argument." Opposition at
7. Insofar as is known to intervenors, the government has not asserted that the correspondence is
privileged from disclosure to third parties such as plaintiffs, nor has it indicated in any way that it
will refuse to disclose the correspondence to plaintiffs. While the government may challenge the
admissibility or "improper use" of the correspondence in the district court or on appeal, see id.,
those arguments would not be directed at the disclosure of the correspondence, which is the
gravamen of intervenors' claim of privilege. Thus, in the absence of the ability to take an appeal
at this juncture, intervenors are "powerless to avert the mischief of the order," Perlman, 247
.U.S. at 13, as their interest in nondisclosure will not be protected by the government. Whether or
Health Grades, Inc., 580 F.3d 664, 665 (7th Cir. 2009)(civil case); United States v. Williams
Cos., Inc., 562 F.3d 387, 392
2009)(criminal case; rejecting effort to distinguish
Penman on the ground that it arose in the grand jury context); Ross v. City of Memphis, 423 F.3d
596, 599-600 (6th Cir. 2007); Gill v. Gulfstream Park Racing= Inc.., 399 F.3d 391, 398 (1st
Cir. 2005)(civil case); Sheet Metal Workers Intern. v. Sweeney, 29 F.3d 120, 212 (4th
Cir.1994)(civil case).
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not the privilege for which intervenors contend would, if recognized, extend to the government
as well, see Opposition at 7, is of no moment in the Perlman analysis, as the government has not
asserted the privilege to prevent disclosure, at least to the extent that intervenors have been able
to review its unsealed pleadings.
I.
THE STANDARD FOR OBTAINING A STAY PENDING APPEAL IS
SATISFIED IN THIS CASE.
A.
Likelihood of Success on the Merits.
Plaintiffs begin their argument by contending that intervenors' statement that "the
Court's order is the first decision anywhere . . . that orders disclosure to third-party litigants of
private and confidential communications between attorneys who were seeking to resolve a
criminal matter," Opposition at 8, quoting Motion at 2, is incorrect in light of Magistrate Judge
Johnson's decision in No. 08-80893. Magistrate Judge Johnson's order, however, concerned only
documents provided to Epstein by the government. That order (Jane Doe #2 v. Epstein, No. 08-
80893-MARRA, Doc. 226), refers to correspondence received by plaintiff through discovery,
Doc. 226 at 2, and appears to relate back to a discovery order entered in Jane Doe #2 v. Epstein,
No. 08-80119-MARRA, in which Magistrate Judge Johnson ordered Epstein to produce
documents given to Epstein by the government during the course of settlement/plea discussions.
Doc. 462. Magistrate Judge Johnson's rejection of the privilege arguments advanced was,
accordingly, focused on documents which were given to Epstein by the government, as those
were the only documents in plaintiffs' possession. It did not resolve the issues arising with
respect to correspondence authored by Epstein's counsel which are pivotally at issue here. While
intervenors would contend that both sides of the settlement correspondence are protected from
disclosure, contrary to Magistrate Judge Johnson's ruling, her ruling did not encompass the full
scope of the important issues at stake here.
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As Epstein argued in his Motion, "the Court's decision drastically reshapes the landscape
of criminal settlement negotiations . . .," Opposition at 9, quoting Motion at
. Plaintiffs,
however, contend that it is not this Court's decision that reshaped the landscape of plea
discussions but instead the CVRA. Opposition at 9. They are wrong. The CVRA only affords
victims "[t]he reasonable right to confer with the attorney for the Government in the case," 18
U.S.C. §3771(a), and specifically provides that "[n]othing in this chapter shall be construed to
impair the prosecutorial discretion of the Attorney General or any officer under his direction."
§3771(d)(6). "What the government chooses to do after a conferral with the victims is a matter
outside the reach of the CVRA, which reserves absolute prosecutorial discretion to the
government." Doe v. United States,
F.Supp.2d
, 2013 WL 3089046 at *5 (M.
June
19, 2013). See, e.g., United States v. Thetford,
F.Supp.2d
2013 WL 1309851 at * 1
M.
March 29, 2013)(CVRA rights "do not extend to giving crime victims veto power over
the prosecutor's discretion"); id. at *4 (CVRA does not confer "they do not have the right to
dictate Government strategy or demand who to prosecute"); United States v. Rubin, 558
F.Supp.2d 411, 418
2008)(CVRA "gives victims a voice, not a veto"). Thus, even if
CVRA affords crime victims a "reasonable" right to confer with government attorneys even
before charges are brought, it does not provide them with any power to insist that an individual
be prosecuted, nor does it confer on them the right to be privy to communications between the
government and the individual's counsel. It does not, therefore, alter the landscape of negotiation
communications between counsel for an accused or potential accused and the government.
Moreover, and equally importantly, the CVRA imposes obligations only on the government, not
on Mr. Epstein and his counsel. Nothing in the CVRA affects the existence and applicability of
the privilege for confidential settlement/plea communications asserted by intervenors.
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As for plaintiffs' Rule 410 argument, which is predicated on this Court's opinion,
Opposition at 10, intervenors have already fully addressed this issue, including this Court's
reasoning, in their Motion at
. As they pointed out there, in United States v. Paden, 908
F.2d 1229 (5th Cir. 1990), the defendant pled guilty to federal charges pursuant to his plea
agreement, not to state charges as here, rendering Paden inapposite to the issue before the Court.
Intervenors have also already addressed the creation of a privilege under Fed. R. Evid. 501 and
the reasons why they believe the Court's ruling, on which the plaintiffs rely, Opposition at 10-11,
in their Motion at
. Nothing which the plaintiffs have to say about either Rule 410 or Rule
501 detracts in the slightest from the arguments already advanced by intervenors.
B.
Irreparable Injury to Intervenors.
Where privileged or confidential communications are concerned, the irreparable injury
inheres in their very disclosure. See Motion at
and cases cited therein. The single case cited
by plaintiff, Northeastern Florida Chapter of
of Gen. Contractors of America v. City of
Jacksonville, 896 F.2d 1283 (11th Cir. 1990), did not involve privileged or confidential
communications but instead the question whether the plaintiff had demonstrated the irreparable
prejudice necessary essential for the entry of a preliminary injunction. It is, accordingly, quite
irrelevant to the present case. Nor, for irreparable injury purposes, does it matter that the cases
cite by intervenors were decided pre-Mohawk. See Opposition at 11-12. Mohawk was concerned
with interlocutory appealability, not with whether the standard for a stay pending appeal have
been satisfied. Nor does it detract in any way from intervenors' irreparable injury argument, as
they have no remedy through appeal from a final judgment, as would a party in the action.
C.
Lack of Prejudice to the Plaintiffs.
Much of the delay was caused by the failure of plaintiffs to expedite the CVRA litigation
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because of their uncertainty about remedy and then because of their non-CVRA interest in
litigating the issue of damages in parallel civil litigation. As this Court has recognized, "[o]ver
the course of the next eighteen months [following the filing of the action], the CVRA case stalled
as petitioner pursued collateral claims against Epstein." Order Denying Government's Motion to
Dismiss (Doc. 189) at 5. The timing of the granting of relief to plaintiffs, should that be the
ultimate outcome of these proceedings, does in fact matter little, contrary to plaintiffs' argument.
Opposition at 13. Even if rescission of the agreement is a potentially permissible remedy, which
intervenors continue to dispute, although they recognize that the Court had decided the matter
otherwise, see Opposition at 13, that does not mean that Mr. Epstein will be prosecuted. As
discussed at page
supra, even should the court rescind the non-prosecution agreement, the
plaintiffs cannot force the government to prosecute Mr. Epstein, and the government has made it
abundantly plain that, whatever the outcome of this litigation, the agreement it made with Mr.
Epstein will stand. See Doc. 189 at 5-7. Accordingly, the statute of limitations for the offenses
with which the government, in the exercise of its absolute discretion, decided not to charge Mr.
Epstein is irrelevant.
The plaintiffs' argument that they have a right to a speedy resolution of their CVRA
claim, Opposition at 13-14, rings hollow, given that the action has been pending for five years,
and the plaintiffs themselves told the Court shortly after the action was filed that there was no
need to proceed on an emergency basis and that they were not seeking rescission of the non-
prosecution agreement, and given that the plaintiffs did not even seek access to the
correspondence at issue for two and a half years after they commenced the action. See Motion at
D.
The Public Interest.
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Even if members of the public are interested in how the government arrived at its non-
prosecution agreement with Mr. Epstein, Opposition at 14, that is not question which will be
answered by a ruling on plaintiffs' claim that the government violated their rights under the
CVRA, nor is it a matter of "the public interest" for purposes of a stay pending appeal. There is
no public interest which will be harmed by granting the requested stay, but there is a significant
one if the stay is denied insofar as the effect on the confidentiality of future plea bargaining when
the negotiations are in the context of possible civil litigation.
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