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Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLED Docket 06/02/2017 Page 1 of 63 GOVERNMENT EXHIBIT EFTA00592533 12/11/2001 11' 9 Eat 037/099 uase 9:us-cv-sui36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 2 of 63 2007-04-75 TXT 1 1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURI VI rill FIFIEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT TN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA 2 stArt OF FLORIDA 3 STATE OF FLORIDA, 4 vs. 5 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 6 Defendant. 7 8 9 TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED STATEMENT OF 4-24-O7 10 12 13 14 iS 16 17 rransillbed by: vicki S. woodham. court. Reporter 18 Notary Public, State of rlorida concur & Associates 19 1655 Palm Beach lakes Boulevard, Suite 500 West Palm 'Peach, florida 33401 20 Phone - 561.682.0N05 21 22 23 74 25 • Faye 1 EFTA00592534 12/11/2007 11 49 FAX Ql038/099 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 3 of 63 1007-04 2i TXT 2 7 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 IR 1!) 20 21 22 23 24 25 • (Taped statement as follows:) AGENT RICHARDS: this is Special Agent Jason RiChards with the fnt along with Special Agent Nesbit Kirkendul and Assistant united StAteS Attorney Marie eilafonia here to conduct an interview with ms. a Also present is her attorney, Jim Eisenberg and Carrie Sheehan. MR. EISENOFRG: And we are here -- This is Jim FiSenbcrg and my investigator. Ms. Sheehan is here, And we're here pursuant to a suhpuena that was served on me for TIIMM and that's why we're here. So Ms. eilafonia. it's your show. MS. B1LAFONTA: Okay, treat. AGENI RICUARDS: I also want to add that the dale is 4-24-07. and the time by my watch is 4:21 p.m. St AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Tatum, we just wail to start off and lead off first. we just want to get some basic info about you, simple stuff. I've gut your date of birth aS 7.26-68: is that correct? A. Yes. sir. Q. I just want to yet like your hasics like that stuff first. your current address? A. Page 2 Royal Palm Beach, EFTA00592535 12/11/2007 11:50 FAX IQ 039/099 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 4 of 63 200?-04-25 3 1 33411. 2 Q. You have a cell phone or -- 3 A. 561 • 4 Q. And home phone? S A. only cell. 6 Q. Only cell, okay. Now have you had other cell 7 phone numbers in the past and do you know any of those? a A. S that'S the only one I can remember. 9 Q. Okay. But you had some others? 10 A. uh-huh. It Q. Okay. 12 BY N.S. RIIAFONIA: 13 Q. who's your service provider? 1.4 A. metro. 15 Q. Metro. And for that other number as well? 16 A. Yes. 17 BY AGCHT elCumtps: 16 Q. Where did you go to high school? 19 A. 70 Q. And what year did you graduate? 21 A. 7 dropped out in eleventh. 72 Q. what year was that that you dropped out , do you 23 remember? 24 A. No. 25 0. what year were you supptrNed w 0raduate, your ragc 3 EFTA00592536 12/11/2007 11:50 FAX ylo4o/os9 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 5 of 63 2007 04-75 IIIIIlltu 2 class7 A. '06. 3 Q. Okay. 4 A. I had got my GPO. 5 Q. when did you get thar? 6 A. About three months ago. 7 0. And are you going to college anywhere • currently? tl A. Not right now. 10 Q. Plans? 11 A. I have plans. 12 (IV MS. SILAFONIA: ti Q. Where are you thinking about going? 14 A, III not positive what I want to do. There's a 15 lot of things on my mind, but right now III focusing on 16 my son. T have a two year old so right now III just 17 working. IX AGENT RICHARDS: Ne i n a handful? lg THE WITNESS: Yeah. 20 AGENT RICHARDS: I have one. tou. 11 THE WITNESS: Yeah. So in the future. I'm 22 definitely going to go to college. I'm going 23 definitely going to go to school. Rut I have, you 24 know, a modeling career gOing on right now that's Page 4 EFTA00592537 12/ 1/2 0t. 1150 wt. lease :Lial-cv-idu (36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag!64016939 7007-04-7S lxr hopefully going to -- some o you will notice me, • • 1 hopefully, and that would be great, but 1 don't 7 know. 3 BY MS. BILAFUNIA: 4 Q. Where else are you working? S A. T work for Advanced Cleaning Systems. They 6 clean carpets. 7 AGENT RICHARDS: Advanced what WAS it? 8 THF WITNESS: System cleaning. 9 BY MS. 6ILAFONIA: 10 Q. And where are they located? 11 A. tas Palmas, 11 Swanee, S-w-a-n -e-e, swin. 17 Drive. 11 O. Are you working in an office there or do you go 14 out to people's homes? IS A. I work in an office there. 16 BY AGrNT RICHAB0S: 17 Q. Obviously, you know why we're here and what we IS want in talk about. So let me just kind of lead into do 19 You know Jeffrey Epstein? 70 A. Yes. 71 Q. Tec, of course, you do. NOW when did you meet 22 Jeff? Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or 23 A. Jeffrey. Page 5 EFTA00592538 12/1 /2 Ot 11 80 EVL Case 0 9:06-u-8u/36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagerci/B9 /007-04-25 =Mi Tr!' • 14 O. Okay. when did you meet. 25 you ro )effrev? him and who introduced A. My girlfriend, Carolyn. introduced me to 7 Jeffrey. 3 Q. Do you know her last name? 4 A. NO. she was a friend of one of my friends, so 5 7 really didn't know her. 6 BY MS. BILAIONIA: 7 Q. when was that? 8 A. t really couldn't tell you. T don't even 9 remember. It's been so long ago. 10 BY AGEN7 RICHAKOS: 11 O. So Carolyn introduced you to him, was it at a 12 party setting or how did you guys meet? 13 A. NO. She came to me and she said hey, would you 14 like to make a couple dollars and I said sure. I said 15 doing what? She said, well. I know this 'Jeffrey. lie 16 lives on Palm Beach island and I bring girls there and he 17 likes massages and 1 was like okay. So T asked her, t 18 said well, what about. my age? And she said well, just 19 make sure that you tel l him that you're 18. And I had a 20 fake IP at the time and we went there. 71 Q. okay. And about what time period was it that rage li EFTA00592539 12/ 1/2 el IL 50 E&K. lease 9:08-cv-80 t36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagleg4OlgY • • /007-04-25 S lxi 2.2 yuu went uver there first, do you remember', 23 A. what t ime period? '14 Q. Yes. A5 tar 35 what year was that that you 75 were in :school? 1 A. I WAS 16. 1 Q. Sixteen. 3 BY MS. BILArONIA: 4 Q. were you a freshman or a sophomore, do you remember? 6 A. 1 couldn't roll you. couldn't tell you 7 Probably a sophomore. K 0. Now you said that carolyn told you that he 9 likes massages. Did she elaborate on what types of 10 massages? 11 A. She sometimes he likes topless massages, 12 but you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. 13 He just likes massages. 14 O. And de you know whether Carolyn had given him 15 M41504.JCS? 16 A. Yeah, she said she's done it before. 17 Q. And do you know whether Carnlyn had taken Any IS other qirIS Over CO see Jeffrey? 19 A. Y0S, She probably did. 20 Q. Did she cell how much you wuuld make? Page 7 7 EFTA00592540 12/11/200/ 11:51 FAX 10I044/099 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 9 of 63 • 2007-04.25 ~ UT 21 A. yes. 22 Q. what did she tell you? 71 A. we go there and we make 5100 in 30 minutes. 24 Q. NOW you said that you asked her, you know, what 25 do I need to be worried about my aye. why did you ask 8 1 her that? 2 A. Because 1 don't want to be -- you know. it was 3 like I was underaye and I was young and 1 was pretty stupid and I didn't want to yet -- t didn't want to get S in trouble, SO T always made sure -- I had a fake ID, 6 anyways, saying that I was 18. And she just said make 7 sure you're 18 because Jeffrey doesn't want any underage girls, 9 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 10 Q. NOW Carolyn. did she -- where did you meet her 11 at? In school? what setting? 12 A. T was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's 13 house. I don't know what girlfriend':; house it was. 14 Everybody was just hanging out. And she said -- she came 15 up to me and she asked me. She said, do you want to make 16 a couple bucks and I said sure. 17 0. And atter the first time ihat she took you over IX there to meet Mr. Epstein. did she ever call you again to Page 8 EFTA00592541 17711/2007 11:51 FAX 4,045/093 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 10 of 63 2007-04-15 10 set up any appointments with him or anything like that7 20 A. NV. 21 Q. Did she ever call you un the phone is what ■ 77 asking? 73 A. NO. T gave Jeffrey my number. And I said, you 24 know, any time you want me to give you A massage again, 2S I'll more than welcome to. 9 • 1 BY MS. BILAFONTA: 2 Q. SO Carolyn took you that first rime, hut then 3 after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey? 4 A. uh-huh. 5 Q. Tell us about that first time that you went to 6 his house, who • - how did you get there? 7 A. One of Carolyn's friends and they dropped us 8 off and then we went. You know, we got escorted up to 9 the massage room and he told me everything. de said, 10 Listen. I like massages. And we had the whole massage 11 table laid out, the lotions and everything. And she was 17 In there for the first like five minutes. And the first 13 time I gave him a massage. the left the room and 1 gave 14 him a massage. And she told me. .The says he likes women 15 topless massages. so .t willingly the first time took off 16 my lop I gave him a massage and nothing more than that. It was just a hack massage and neck MA%%491. And 7 Page 9 EFTA00592542 12/11/2007 11:51 FAX IA 048/099 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 11 of 63 2007-04-25 18 WEIS Out of there. 19 Q. okay. let me just ask you a rouplr of 70 tol low-op questions. You said that someone escoried you 21 up to the room. Do ynu know who that was? 22 A. One of -- what's her name? Actually, Sara, 23 Sara just said, you know, it's up there and she just told 24 me where it was. 25 O. And then you said that you and Carolyn went 10 • 1 upstairs together? A. Uh-huh. 3 Q. And carolyn stayed in there for the first tew 4 minutes? S A. tlh-huh. 6 Q. was 3effrey already in the room by the time 7 Carolyn left? 8 A. Yeah, he was in the room. l) O. Okay. was he there when you guys showed up in 10 the room or did he come in after you were already there? 1] A. He was in the room already. 12 O. And you said that you took your top off. pid 13 anybody ask you to take it ott. like did Carolyn say WA 14 time for you to take it off? 15 A. No, she wasn't in the room. rage 10 EFTA00592543 12/11/2007 1.1 51 FAX Rb047/088 case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 12 of 63 • • /007-04-25 TXT 16 O. Ky the time you took it off, okay. 17 A. 1 said, i told ieffrey. I heard you like 18 massages topless. And he's like, yeah, he said, but you 19 don't have to do anything that you don't reel comfortable 20 with. And t said okay, but I willingly took it off. 21 Q. Okay. And during that rirst massage, you said 22 thar you gave him a shoulder and neck massage? 23 A. Neck, back, shoulder, yeah. 24 U. Was he face down the entire time that he got 25 his massage? 11 1 A. Yeah. 2 q. And what did you do during the massage? Did 3 you talk or - 4 A. Yeah, we talked. S 9. And what would you talk about with him? 6 A. Well, we were just getting to know each other. 7 we Iai about how my lifestyle was, what he did fur a 8 living and just all positive things, really nice things. 9 q. Okay. what was he wearing when you first came 10 in the room? II A. I'm sorry. when he first -- when he first came 12 in the room, he was fully clothed. And then he said, you 13 know, wait a second. I'm going to go on the massage 14 table and he put a towel over him just like a normal rage 11 EFTA00592544 12/11 007 11:51 Fa. lill048/099 L2 ease 9:08-cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 13 of 63 2007-04-)5 -.TXT 1S masseuse would do. 16 Q. Did he undress and put a towel around him? 17 A. uh huh. 18 O. okay. 19 A. Yeah, I didn't see anything. It was just back, 20 neck and shoulders. 21 Q. And after the massage was over. you received 22 the $200? 23 A. lit gives money right away. 24 Q. III sorry. was that before you started the 2S massage or after the massage he gave you? • 17 • 1 A. The first time, he gave me the money right 2 away. 3 U. okay. And he's the person that paid you the 4 $200? 5 A. No, it's always Sara. 6 G. Sara gave you the money? 7 A. Uh-huh. 8 BY AGENT itict-lxkos: 9 Q. what's Sara's last name, do you know? 10 A. I don' t know. 11 Mk. EISENBERG! You can't look at papers. At 12 you think you know, you know. If you don't know, -- Pawl 12 EFTA00592545 12/11[2007 11:51 FAX W1049/095 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 14 of 63 2007-04-25 TAT 13 THE WITNESS: No, I don't know. I don't know 14 sara's last name. HQ does. 15 BY MS. 8ILAFONIA: 16 Q. okay. The only thing III confused about is you 12 said that sara didn't even take you upstairs. She just 18 told you where you should go? 19 A. oh-huh. 20 Q. SO when did she pay you the money? 21 A. She paid me then and there when I first walked 77 in the door, me and Carolyn. 23 BY AGENT. RICHAIWS: 24 Q. she paid you before you went upstairs? 25 A. Yes. 13 • 1 BY MS. BILAFONIA.: 2 Q. And how much was Carolyn paid? 3 A. Everybody got paid 5200. 4 Q. And after -- so after the Ilssage was finished, you said that you had already been paid. who asked you 6 for your name and telephone number? 7 A. Jeffrey said, well. III like to see you again. Can I have your number? From what I remember. III pretty 9 sure he asked me for my numher and T gave him my number. 10 Q. Okay. 11 BY AGM Al(HAAWN: rage 13 EFTA00592546 12/11/2007 11:52 FAX 050/492 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 15 of 63 2007-04-25 S ixt 12 Q. Did he write it down upstairs? He had a pen 13 handy. I hope? 14 A. Uh-huh. IS MY Ms. ATLAFONIA: t6 Q. on that first massage, you said that you worked 12 on him topless. Nut when you first started, did you take 18 -- what were you wearing? 19 A. 1 was wearing a shirt. a normal shirt and 20 jeans. And I started to do a massage and I said well, I 21 heard you like topless massages. And, of course, he 2> thought I was 18. And he's like yeah. T do. I prefer 23 that. And who wouldn't, you know? So I said okay and I 74 took it off. 75 Q. And you took oft your bra as well? 14 • A. VQS. 2 Q. And you left your jeans on? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. Okay. So you gavr him a massage. Did he request you do anything sprrial in the massage? 6 A. NO. 7 Q. And he never turned over in that first massage? A. NO. 9 Q. SO you said that that day you gave your name page 14 EFTA00592547 12/11/2007 11 52 FAX 10,051/099 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 16 of 63 2007-04 25 7xl 10 and number to Jettrey. when was your next cnritaCt from 11 him or anybody who worked fur him? 1/ A. The next day, he had called me and he said 13 would like to come out again and t'd like to see you 14 again. I said sure. 1 Wok a taxi there and 7 went 15 there again. 16 Q. The FOllOwing day, 17 A. The next day. 18 Q. okay. And you said that Jeffrey is the person 19 who called you for that appointment? 20 A. NO. Jeffrey did not, no. Sara. Sara actually 21 cal led me. ream what 11 remember, Sara actual ly cal led 12 in.:. Q. okay. And she said Jeffrey says he wants to 21 5ee you again? 25 A. Yes. 15 • I O. And then you said you took a taxi? A. Yes. Q. Is that huw you would normally got to and tram 4 his house? 5 A. uh-huh, if 1 didn't have friends because 1 6 don't drive, yeah. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. How did you get home the first time when rage 15 EFTA00592548 12/11.42ifili IA 52 FAX vietsu 9:u8cv-ou736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaVn s 63 7007-04.25 IIIIIIIIrxr 9 Carolyn took you over? Did she get a taxi? 10 A. NO, our friend came back and picked us up. 11 Q. which friend was that? 17 A. nis name was Brian. I don't know his last 14 name. t really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her 14 friends or whatever, but I met Jeffrey. And once I met 1S Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy and t just -- I don't 16 know. I ended up giving him my number so r could -- 17 didn't want Carolyn ur Brian to drive me anymore. I 18 would rather go to him on my own. 19 kV MS. BLLAIONIA: 70 Q. when you would take the taxis to and from, 21 would he III for them? 11. A. Uh-huh. 23 Q. And he would pay when you arrived? 21 A. uh-huh. 25 Q. And then he would just oive you extra money 16 • 1 when you left to pay for the taxi? 2 A. No, nn. I never asked him for extra money, so 3 lt just paid for my own taxi. 4 Q. okay. So From the money that he paid you for 5 the massage? A. two hundred, yeah. Page 16 EFTA00592549 12/11/2001 11'52 FAX 053/UYS case 9:ug-cv-so736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 18 of 63 • 2007-04.15 TXI 7 Q. where were you living at the timcY 8 A. I was living at 9 located on Okeechobee. so I would take, you know, 10 straight Okeechobee down to where I lived. 11 Q. Ou you remember about how much that taxi faro 12 w45 each way? 13 A. Twenty dollars. t4 Q. And did you always use the same taxi service 15 or 16 A. Ho, 1 used different taxis all the time. so -- 17 Q. And you would just call and have them come to 18 your house? 19 A. Uh-huh. I used a whole bunch of different 70 taxis, whatever is available. 21 Q. SO you mentioned that the second mas sago, was 22 it any different than the first one? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. How was it different? 75 A. When x went there, I went there by myself. And 1 1 went up to the massage room and Jeffrey was just like 2 regular like he was before on his stomach and he had a 3 towel over and we started the massage and I had my top 4 off willingly. And after the massage. he asks me the whole time. He says, Are you comfortable with me Joh) Page 17 17 EFTA00592550 12211/2007 11.52 FAX_ case 9:08-cv-8u /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagigi.V099 63 200.7-04-25 IIIIIIITXJ 6 this and I said yes and he turned around. And this was 7 like at the end of the massage. our 30-minutes massage. X usually it was even shorter than that. And he 9 masturbated at the end of the massage and it was like two 10 seconds and 1 was just tool'''. 11 Q. And when he turned over, then did he touch you 12 at all or was he just -- 13 A. NO. I did not touch him. He did not touch me. 14 we didn't even want -- 15 Q. Yott didn't like continue the massage while he 16 was masturbating or anything? 17 A. NO. IS Q. Okay. T rut you off. YOu said he didn't even? 19 A. He didn't want me to touch him and he didn't 20 touch me at all. 21 O. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest or rub his 22 nipples during the massage? 23 A. Actually. later on because I saw him For a 24 long time. tater on. I asked him. you know, and I asked 25 him -- 1 would give him -- you know, I would rub his 18 • 1 chest or whatever and massage him while he was masturbating. yeah. Q. So eventually you would continue the massage page 18 EFTA00592551 12/1112007 1_1 -53 F.A1 4,95)/OBB case 9:u8-cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 2u of 63 2007 04 25 IIIIIIIItxt 4 and he would masturbate at the same time? 5 A. Yeah. but it wasn't on his lower area. 6 Q. no, you never touched his penis? 7 A. Right. 8 Q. Okay. so that was during the second massage. 9 You were paid 5200 again? IQ A. Always. 11 Q. Always? Every time you went there? 12 A. Always. 13 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 14 0. was it always Sara that paid you? 15 A. sometimes Jeffrey would and sometimes Sara 16 would. 17 BV MS. B1LAIONIA: /8 Q. was it usually before or after the massage? 19 A. After the first time, it was always after. I 20 would go downstairs and t'd get paid. 21 Q. So just sort of tell us, when a massage ended. 22 which I assume was after he ejaculated? 23 A. it wasn't all the time that he did, though. 24 0. Okay. 25 A. It wasn't like every time we went there he 19 • 1 released. sometimes he just wanted his feet massaged. sometimes he just wanted a hack massage. Page 19 EFTA00592552 12/lease79:wo-cv 1/200 11.53 -b736 /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Fade W6/99 63 2007-04-25 rxr 3 Q. okay. But when the massage was over however it 4 ended, you would just get dressed and yo downstairs by S yourself or did take you downstairs? 6 A. Yeah. the chef would make us food and it'd be 7 great. And Jeffrey would get dressed and he'd come down with us sometimes or, you know, it wasn't -- we had fun. • 4 rt was all positive. In Q. okay. mow many massages do you think that you 11 gave Jeffrey? 12 A. 1 gave Jeffrey a lot of macsaqvc r can't tell 13 you. I saw him fur a good year. 14 Q. And how many times -- would you see him weekly Is or more than once a week? A. yeah. 17 Q. More than once a week? 18 A. I personally would or I'd bring girls. 19 Q. okay. But either you would or either a girl 20 that you brought? 21 A. Yeah, uh ,huh. 12 Q. Okay. 23 A. But after a while. it wasn't me anymore. I had 24 brought girls, but t got paid $200 to bring girls. 25 Q. okay. so let's talk lust about when you were Page 20 20 EFTA00592553 12/11.420_ 1,1;.53.5AX case79:uo-cv-ou736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa6Tir 63 2007-04-25 txt 1 performing the massages. what other sorts of things 2 would happen? You said that sometimes he would just like 3 his feet massaged. what case would happen during those 4 massage sessions? S A. Nothing. everything I told you. 6 Q. Okay. So sometimes a back massage? 7 A. sometimes he liked back massages. sometimes he 8 like feet massages. Sometimes he like his head massaged. 9 He liked his head massaged a lot. sometimes leg 10 massages, yeah. And it wasn't every time that we went 11 there he masturbated. I? Q. okay. Any idea half and half or less than half 13 the time that he masturbated? 14 A. Less the time he masturbated. IS Q. Did you always perform topless? Did you ever 16 get completely naked towards the end or in the middle and 17 remove all of your clothing? 18 A. I Would wear panties. willingly one time 19 because we were making jokes and everything and willingly 20 one time I had, yes, I was totally nude, but t was fine 21 with it. 22 O. okay. 23 A. Totally fine with it. 14 Q. And how did that massage go? 25 A. Actually, it was a foot massage and he was • rage Z1 EFTA00592554 12/111200 lA 53 FAX uase79:u8-cv-bu736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaATO139 63 2007-04-25 lAl 1.1 sitting on the couch. we didn't even have the massage 2 'able out and I gave him a Foot rub and I was nude. 3 Q. And how much were you paid Fur that? 4 A. Two hundred every single time. 5 Q. Did he at any point kiss you. touch you, show 6 any kind of affection towards you? 7 A. Never, never. 8 Q. okay. 9 RV AGENT alCilARDS: AO Q. why not? 11 A. why not? why would he? 12 Q. you seem like a nice young lady, attractive. 13 He never had any urges to -- 14 A. I asked him, 1 said, when are you going to get IS married? when arc you going to get married, :Jeffrey? He 16 said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know. 17 beautiful women all the time. why would he -- no, 18 huh-uh. 19 BY MS. RILAFONIA: 20 Q. He never pulled you closer to him in a sexual 21 way? 27 A. I wish. no, no. never, ever, ever, no, never. 23 3effrey is an awesome man, no. 74 Q. Okay. Now you said that at some point you 25 started bringing other girls over? • rage 22 EFTA00592555 12/118W 91.60avF-66736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaN:114/899 63 2007 04 25 -.TXT 12 1. A. Oh-huh. 2 Q. now did that start? 3 A. we likes to see different faces. 4 f). so he asked you if you had friends that you 5 could bring over or other girls? 6 A. uh-huh. 7 Q. And how did you decide who you would ask to S come over? 9 A. All of my good-looking girlfriend% and if ihvy 10 had friends. It's all about, you know, we were just 11 making money and Jeffrey is an awesome guy. we just, you 12 know -- I would tell my girlfriends just like Carolyn approached me. make sure you tel l him you're 18. well, 14 these girls that 1 brought, I know that they were 18 or 18 19 or 20. And the ()iris that t didn't know and T don't 16 know it they were lying or not, 1 would say make sure 17 that you tell him you're IS. 18 Q. okay. what exactly would you tell them about 19 what would happen after you got to the house? 20 A. I said he likes massages, but he prefers 21 topless massages. BUT if you're nut comfortable, then )2 don't do it and it won't matter. 23 O. And did any of them tell you what happened 24 after that? 25 A. Always, always, I even asked them. • emit? 23 EFTA00592556 12/16g8791h5di V 6U/36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PagVglocr 9 63 • 2007-04-25 23 1 O. Okay. And with the other girls, was it the 2 same as what you did or different? 3 A. Yeah, yeah. t mean, well. I was more willingly 4 to do more. you know. Like I said, I went nude for him 5 one time. But the other girls. they practically were 6 topless and that's all that they were willing to do. 7 some girls didn't want to go topless and Jeffrey didn't 8 mind. 9 Q. were there girl!: that you brought back multiple JO times? 11 A. A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see 12 different faces. 13 Q. okay. I'm just wondering are there some girls 14 he really liked and others he didn't like or did he have 15 any preferences in terms of blondes, brunettes? 16 A. He liked girls like me. 17 O. Okay. Thin and attractive? 18 A. t guess. yeah. very attractive women. And he 19 didn't say girls. He said women all the time. 20 Q. Did you ever briny anybody he didn't care for? Zl A. Huh-uh. 22 Q. Yeah? 23 A. Yeah. 24 Q. now was she different than the others? ZS A. Black. I screwed up. Page 24 EFTA00592557 12/ 1tagg9k1O6vfeS736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa*N /dt98 63 2007-04 - 2S . 'XI 24 1 Q. How did you know you screwed up? A. He doesn't like black women, obviously. 3 Q. So he let you know? He told you that? 4 A. Yeah, bur he was still nice and he still gave 5 her her 200 even though he didn't even have a massage by 6 her. 7 Q. How did he he paid you 5200 for bringing 8 ';4th girl? 9 A. Uh-bug. IQ Q. And when he told you that. I mean, that's what 11 he told you that he would III you 5200 for bringing the 12 girls? 13 A. Yeah. He said if you bring me -- if you bring 14 me girls, I'll definitely, you know, give you money, 1S compensate you for your time and willing to do that for 16 me, yeah. 17 Q. And you said at that point you stopped 18 performing massages for him? 19 A. At that point. 1 didn't -- it would he 20 sporadically like. Usually. I had so many girlfriends at 21 the time that. you know, there were some new Faces to be. 22 saw. And if no one was avai lable. then T would go. 23 Q. I got you. 24 A. SO -- 25 Q. po you know some of the girls that you brought, • Page 15 EFTA00592558 12/11.220QT9:uo-c case v-uu736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pan iar 63 7007-04-25 /XV ?i 1 some of the their names? 2 A. 1 don't remember, really. They were like not even friends. They were just associates, you know. If • 4 anything. be friends of friends, so no. 5 Q. We have -- I don't know. We have some messages 6 I guess that some girls' names that would call Jeffrey 7 and leave a massage. There's some girls names that are 8 referenced. we were just wondering if you knew them? 9 A. If you name them. T can probably remember. 10 MS. BILAIONIA: Jason, do you have that? 11 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 12 Q. V is one. 13 A. I don't know v_. OO you know her lint 14 name? 15 MS. BILAFONTA: we were hoping you did. 16 °rue WITNESS: No, X don't. 17 DV AGENT RICHARDS: 18 Q. 19 A. No, that sounds like a black girl's 20 name. 21 Q. Well, you brought a black girl. what was her 72 name? ?3 A. I don't know. uon't ask me. 24 0. SEIM Pdge /0 EFTA00592559 12/1122007 Etta_ ease 9:uo-cv-aur36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PA °ler 63 2C A, s 2007 04 25 yeah, I brought 5 26 • • 1 2 Q. A. who is she? tel l us about Still. s we look just alike, if that's the girl 3 I'm thinking about. we went to school together and I 4 brought her one time and then she ended up moving so she S couldn't come with me. Q. were you guys in the same grade or -- 7 A. No, she was older than me. 8 Q. A year or two? 9 A. she was -- Actual ly, she was like 1K. I don't 10 know. she was older. She was like, you know, two ranks. 11 two grades ahead of me. 12 Q. So when you were a sophomore. she was a senior? 13 A. I just met her in school and I told her. 14 BY MS. BILAFONIA: 15 Q. what was her last name? 16 A. T don't know. 17 BY AGENT RICHARDS: L8 Q. Do you know where she lived? A. I just 19 met her in school and I told her about it. 70 Q. You told her about it at school? is that where 21 your discussion was or -- 22 A. Well. I said gilo. me your number. I said you 73 can make a couple of dollars. it's real easy. And if Page 27 EFTA00592560 12/11120V 14 SA R44( e.atse.9Liaev 736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa6110/6199 63 • 2007-04-25 24 you're comfortable with it, give me a call. 25 Q. Was that at school or at a party? 1 2 3 was? 4 27 A. No, at school. 0. At school. You're not sure what her last name A. t have no idea. 5 0. Do you know where she or anything like 6 that, what car she drove? 7 A. No. S Q. what'd she look like? 9 A. what she looked like? 10 Q. Yeah. 11 A. Like me, everything, blonde hair. blue OyeS. 12 (Start Side Fs of tape.) 13 AGENT RICHARDS: Time recorder is being 14 restarted is approximately 4:50 III li SY MS. BILAFONIA: 16 17 High at the 18 A. 19 Q. Y. 20 A. And that's where S went to school. 21 U. what about a girl rag q, we were talking about s YoU were at NO, I was at time? EFTA00592561 12/1 ViaW910856v186736-KidA Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa64°Seiel99 63 2007-04-2S TXT A. who? 23 BY MANI RICHARDS: 24 Q . O l d you bring 25 A. I brought a couple ns 1 Q. I want to know about every one you brought A. well. one of them died recently, so -- 3 Q. what was her name? In a car accident or 4 something? 5 A. NO, she unfortunately, she got shot in 6 the head. von guys probably heard it on the news. She 7 clot shot in the head by his guy. f don't want to even 8 talk about it because cry. 9 tiv rte., EILAION1A: 10 O. Let's talk about the other u 11 A. I don't even know. 1 don't know. I don' t 12 know, There were some girls that just 1 would take one 13 time and then I would never talk to again, so 1 don't 14 know. 15 O. Now many girls do you think you brought to 16 Jeffrey's house? 17 A. ThOt'S a good question. I bring a lot, like maybe 18 I don't know, maybe 30. maybe 30. IL was al l 19 about the money to me at that time. 20 U. wow any of the girls that you brought , did any Page 29 EFTA00592562 2 12/112007 Ax uase 9:wotvF-idu736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PalVM./8?9 63 2007-04-2s IIIIIIIIrxr 21 of them leave their names And numbers and then they would get appointments directly from Jeffrey or did they alw.iys 23 gn through you? 24 A. 'hey went through me, hopefully. 2S Q. So you don't know, 79 !sY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. You weren't getting paid, right? 3 A. I told them. I Said, Don't give him your number. 5 RY MS. BILAFON/A: 0. If you brought the same girl more than once, 7 would you yet paid each time you brought them or lust get 8 the initial S.200? A. Fvery Single time I brought a girl, okay, or 1 10 referred a girl, t Always got 4700, always. 11 Q. Even if she came a second time? 12 A. Ye:. 13 Q. you would get. 5100 every time she came/ 14 A. yes. 15 Q. Good deal . okay. what abour a If, A. C who? 17 Q. Any C-that you brought ro mr. rpclein's IS house. • Page 30 EFTA00592563 12/1e388791j318114"- ocu /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagif Ygoiss 63 i00/-04-)5 19 A. I brought a c 20 Q. wM. where die she CIO to school? 71 A. she didn't go to school. 22 Q. Okay. flow did you know 73 A. CMS been my -- she's my friend in the Z4 past. mow did i meet C al a party or she was my )5 -- Actually, she was my baby's father's girlfriend at the 30 • 1 time and I met her at a party. 2 Q. You asked her if she'd be wi l l ing to go to 3 Jeffrey's house? 4 A. uh-huh. Q. And when -- do you remember when that would 6 have been? 7 A. Actually, a couple weeks, a couple weeks. I do 8 remember her. A couple weeks after I met him. 9 Q. So you brought her pretty soon after you met 10 ieffrey? 11 A. uh-huh. 12 Q. And how old was C IIIIIIIV 13 A. Seventeen, 17. 14 O. And what happened when you brought a is A. The same thing. 16 Q. okay. well. I know that sometimes you said 17 that the girls would tell you what happened? Page 31. EFTA00592564 12/11/200 A 5 A Fx case79:Iu8-scv -au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pali /or 63 2007-04-25 IIIIIIIITxt 18 A. She went in there, she had a massage she 19 gave a massage on his back. She went a couple times. He /0 liked her. She went a couple times. The first time she 21 told me that he didn't it was just like me the first 22 time. me didn't climax at al l , nothing happened. It was 23 just a massage. And then she went, I chink, like two 24 times after that. And yeah, he masturbated, but no 75 touching. She didn't -- there's no touching of him. No 31 1 touching of her. None of my girls ever had a problem and 2 call me. beg me. you know, for us to go to 3 ieffrey's house because they love Jeffrey. Jeffrey is a • 4 respectful man. He really is. I mean, and he all 5 thought we were of age, always. this is what's so sad 6 about it. 7 Q. How would -- how would you make appointments 8 for girls to go over there? 9 A. All call them and they Say hi. do you want to 10 go to Jeffrey's house? And say yes or no and 11 call a taxi. 17 Q. HOW would you know when leffrey was going to be 13 in town? 14 A. leffrey was 'in town, Sara would cal l me. I5 Q. Did she always call when they were already in Page 3/ EFTA00592565 1211 tigg 79:1585&-W736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Penn" 63 2007.04-25 16 town or would she -- how for in AdVArif l• would she call I/ you? 18 A. They only called me when they were in Palm 19 Beach. They never called me from anywhere. They've 20 never called me from anywhere else. It was always when I 21 was in Palm Beach. They'd say hi, we're down here. If 72 you want to come and see Jeffrey, you're more than 73 welcome to. 24 Q. So you wouldn't have like a specitic time when 25 you would go over, like be here at 11 or he here at two? 32 1 A. well, I'd tell them, I'd say -- well, I mean, 2 I'd have to work around his schedule. He'd have to work 3 around mine. Yeah, we'd say T'll he there at three. 4 I'll be there at four, whatever. S Q. DO you -- I know that you said you talked to 6 Sara on the phone. was there anybody else that you would • 7 talk to on the phone? 6 A. At Jeftrey wasn't there like it A'd call him to 9 see how he was doing or whatever, you know, he had -- his 10 chef would answer the phone. HiS maid would answer the ft phone. That's -- I? O. But was Sara the only one you talked to about 1.3 making appointments? 14 A. Uh-huh. yeah. well, yeah. if ieffrey wasn't Page 33 EFTA00592566 12/11'20079:u lA 55 FAD( case 8-cv-oru736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Paatai6o2o°iss 63 2007-04-25 available, t you know, he said, the chef or you Ih know, whoever. said )cffrey will get hack to you. Yeah, 17 Sara made the appointments. is q. so when you were calling to talk to Jeffrey. 19 you were calling the house phone over in Palm reach? 20 A. Oh-huh, yeah. 71 Q. And how often would you talk ro Jeffrey on the 22 phone as opposed to talking to one of his assistants? 73 A. Me and Jeffrey hardly ever talked on the phone. 24 Pe was always busy. It was mostly tiara. we'd talk when 25 1 would ger there, you know so ii was like hey, do you 33 • I wont to come in? Yes, cool, you know. come no. 1 cool, bye. 3 Q. Do you know someone who works for Jeffrey named 4 5 A. I chink I met her one time. 6 q. And what do you know about her? 7 A. She was there. And the person , I think, 8 not positive, okay. I'm pretty sure she said that 9 she's from New York and she travels with Jeffrey. but I ID think 7 met her one time, if that's the girl that ring, 11 the bell, you know, in my head. Nadia 7 think is that 12 one person I mel nns time. Page 34 EFTA00592567 12/1 ase 9l 1420o7 A AX :u8--cAu736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa6Pgd/809 63 2002 04 25 =M. IK1 13 Q. Now you said that you had teased Jeffrey about 14 whether he was gett ing married. Did you ever know him to 15 have a girlfriend or a steady? 16 A, No, he [old me he's never been married. He's 17 never had a girlfriend and hr doesn' t want to have a IS girlfriend. 19 Q. were you ever asked to bring a girl for someone 20 else like to give a massage to somebody else or to anyone 21 other than ieffrey? 44 A. NO. T gave Sara a massage before. 23 Q. And how did that happen? 24 A. 1 only gave Sara a massage like once or twice, 25 once or twice, not that often. 34 • 1 0. Nut anybody else, either any friends that were 2 in town or -- 3 A. No. See, my mother is a masseuse and I have 4 experience massaging and he always liked my massages. so 1 he told Sara about my massages and she said. yeah, I want 6 a massage so I'd go over there. T think it was one or 7 two times and i gave her a massage. 8 Q. Now when the girls were upstairs with Jeffrey 9 in the bedroom, what would you do? 10 A. the chef would make me carved tomatoes. out 11 some crab meat in it and l'd just cat, wine and din,'. TI Page 35 EFTA00592568 12/114207 14,-;fie 644-, ease 9:uia-cv-aur 36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagr@ Wer s 63 100/-04-25 was wonderful, great. 13 Q. And when you would talk to the chef -- 14 A. 15 0. -- would anybody else from the house be there? 16 A. Yes. t don't know their names. I can't 17 remember. There were like all these foreign girls from 18 -- like they're beautiful, beautiful models that are from 19 different -- they have accents. And no, but it was real 20 interesting because we'd talk. And, you know, III learn 21 a lot trom them and learn a lot from me just being 22 American. And no, every time, r went there it was a good 23 time. And t ocually just are or ■ go and suntan or 24 something near the pool. 25 Q. And how long you would the other girl he 3; 1 upstairs normally? 2 A. Twenty, 25. 20 to 30 minutes. 3 RY AGENT RICHARDS: 4 Q. Hack to wM is there anything else 5 about her that you can remember? You were friends with her. She went three times, you think? Did she go back 7 without going through you to set up any appointments that 8 you know about') 9 A. I don't know. • Page 36 EFTA00592569 12/11/2007 1356 FAA_ usins9 case 9:08-cv-auf36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagif ild or 63 2007-04-25 IIIIIIIIFTx1 10 Q. Okay. were there any ot er a that you 11 brought? I know you brought other la or multiple 12 BIIIIIIF 13 A. Yeah. I don't know. It you would $3y like a 14 last name, then i would probably remember. but I don't. 15 Q. Any Gill'? Did you bring a 16 A. CM. yeah, that sounds familiar. Yeah. 17 tom, yeah. 18 19 A. oh-huh. 20 0. what can you tell me about her? Mow old was 21 she? 22 A. she's older than me. 23 Q. Do you know her from school or -. 24 A. No. where did i meet her? I met her in my 25 neighborhood and I asked her if she wanted to go and • 1 yeah, GE. she was only there one time, though. 2 Q. Did she tell you how it went with him upstairs? 3 A. Yeah. 4 p. what'd she say? 5 A. she said -- she's like ah, I don't know. 6 q. She freaked out or someohing? 7 A. No, no, but he didn't want her ogain. De likes 8 rai l, slender and she was like short. Page 37 EFTA00592570 12/1112007 4.45R case-9:uio=cwoo736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaVid ior 63 2007-04 25 -.TXT 9 O. What did she say about him? 10 A. she had fun. 11 Q. she had fun? 12 A. Oh-huh. 13 Q. What did she say happened up there? 14 A. she was topless and just gave a massage. He 15 didn't, you know, climax or anything. 16 BY MS. 8ILAPowIA: 17 Q. Did you ever, either when you gave him a 18 massage or any of the girls, did you ever use a big back 19 massager or it was only manual massage? 20 A. NO. it was only my hAnds, we never used 21 anything else. 22 Q. Now when you were working for him, when you 13 were going over to Jeffrey's house to give massages, did 24 you have a boyfriend? 25 A. yeah, yeah. 37 I. Q. okay. How did he feel ahout you going to 2 Jeffrey's house? 3 A. He was a jealous little boy, but he didn't 4 care. Bring home the bacon. Q. what's your boyfriends? 6 A. 0 • Page 313 EFTA00592571 12/11/2007 11:56 FAX W1075/0,3 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 40 of 63 • • 2007-04-25 s iXT 7 Q. Now T know you that you mentioned that you had 8 a baby. Is that the baby's father? 9 A. No, no, thank God. 10 Q. who is the baby's father? 11 A. SM" 12 0. okay. 3 SM. And were you still going 13 to Jeffrey's when you were pregnant? 14 A. I would bring girls there when I was pregnant. IS Q. So did -- so did J have concerns about 16 what you were doing at Jeffrey's house? 17 A. NO, he talked to Jeffrey over the phone. 18 Jeffrey actually threw me my baby shower and he got me 19 furniture and a nice rattle for my son and just really 20 nice things, i love mommy frames. 21 Q. was the shower at his house and did he attend? 22 A. No, nu, at my house, at my house. And no. 23 Jeffrey wasn't there. He just sent Sara to bring me 24 gifts for the baby. 2S Q. Oh, okay. 1 RV AGENT RICHARDS: 2 Q. Did J ever go over there with you? 3 A. NU. 4 Q. He stayed away. A. NO, he didn't go, no. Page 39 38 EFTA00592572 12/116tre19%.5-Cvl-g736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaVa in s 63 • • 2007-04.25 6 BY MS. RTIAFONIA: 7 Q. Did Jeffrey ask you about boyfriends? I mean, 6 was he curious about -- 9 A. Yeah, we always talked about everything, yeah. 10 Do you have a boyfriend, yeah, no. you know, we talked 11 like -friends. I don't know. Just about our lite 12 stories, You know, he probably knows my whole life 13 story. 14 Hy AGENT RICHARDS: 15 Q. Now do you still have contact with him or 16 A. who? 17 Q. Jeffrey. lF A. No, no one's allowing me. 19 DV MS. AltAFONIA: 20 Q. Did he know that you wanted to be a model or 21 that's what you were aspiring to be? 22 A. Yes, I told him. Yes. I've always wanted to be 23 a model, yes. 24 Q. nid he ever say IIII help you? 2S A, oh-huh, yeah. And I was -- like I said, I was 1 16 at the time and X felt -- like he said, you know. You 2 can - • I will definitely take you and bring you to New York and everything because he had models there, but Page 40 EFTA00592573 12/111M791601v516736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa*MY(9(39 63 4 always turned it down because I was 16 and I didn't want 5 that to get our. 6 Q. What did you say to him? now did you put him 7 off? 8 A. I don't know. Oh, well. 7 don't know. No, he 9 wasn't like begging me or anything, me asked me a couple 10 times and 1 said -- 1 just -- there was like no say about 11 it. I just -- I didn't yo. And it wasn't like he asked 12 me all the time. Me just it's a couple times he asked. 13 me said i'll briny you to New York or whatever we do and 14 we can, you know, try to fulfill your dreams, but 15 always said no because. I was young and I didn't want to 16 screw up the 18 thine. 17 O. Did -- when you got pregnant, did he react in 18 any way? 7 mean, did he tell you if you want to be a 19 model, you know, this is going to mess with your chances 20 as a model or otter any -- 21 A. NO. 22 0. I'm wondering like how much was he giving you 23 advice? now much stuff were you really -- what did you 24 talk about? 25 A. After the baby, we didn't really even talk. 'I 40 • I was , A was totally -- I ch—. YOu know. 1 was a bad 2 little girl and I totally changed. My whole litc Page 41 EFTA00592574 l(/l l/J0U( ii.01 hAA Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Rag@ W64ss 63 • • • 7007 04-25 .TX1 3 changed. A couple times after I had the baby, 1 brought 4 a couple girls there. It was like two times. And then 5 me and Jeffrey really stopped talking. we just stopped 6 talking. I had my own life and he had his. so 1 don't 7 know. 8 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 9 Q. uid hr ever make any arrangements knowing that 30 you wanted to be a model or were modeling? Ne has a lot 11 of connections with photographers and stuff. I mean. did 12 he ever Set up any photo shoots or anything like that? 13 A. NO. No. because he asked me if I would like to l4 go to pursue what I wanted to do, but like 1 said, for 15 the second time -- 16 Q. 1 mean in town here, not to travel to New York 17 for a shoot or anything? 18 A. NO. No, because t always like stood back from 19 that because i didn't want him to know that T was 16. 20 BY MS. BItAFONIA: 21 Q. Did you ever get money from )effrey when you 27 didn't either give a massage or bring a girl over? :3 A. YeS. 74 Q. Okay. When did that happen? 25 A. I had to pay rent and I was late on my rent. rage 42 41 EFTA00592575 12/16W9kiaVEM736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Paditqld/d189 63 2007.04 25 li=.TxT 1 Thic was before the baby. An I asked him -- I asked him 2 for like 300. He gave me 5500. t don't -- I couldn't 3 tell you how I got it. if anything. I think I went to 4 the house and got it. 5 O. was he there you went to gel the money? 6 A. NO. 7 O. Oo you know was he in town or did you call him? A. I don't even -. I can't remember, but I just remember he did give me 1.500 for rent. 10 Q. was that the only time that he gave you money It that wasn't connected either to a massage or to bringing 12 a girl? 13 A. NO bought gifts for the baby shower. r can't 14 remember now. NOt off the top of my head, no. t never 15 asked him for anything because I just felt -- III not 16 like that, you know. I'm not a user and I'm not -- I 17 don't like that. I've never asked him for money, so -- 18 Q. what about presents, either birthday presents? 19 you mentioned gifts tor the baby. Any other gifts that 20 he gave you? 21 A. Yeah, he gave me a -- he had went to Brazil and 22 he came back with a whole hunch of bikinis and he told me 23 to choose one. so T chose one. 24 Q. Any other gifts. Christmastime or birthdays or 25 anything like that' • P491: 43 EFTA00592576 12/lea87915lal!vpdU /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@ IlliSeis9 63 2007-04-/S IIIIIIITXI 42 1 A. NO. 2 Q. old he give any of your friends that you 3 brought gifts? 4 A. Yeah, the girl who died, B-. He gave her 5 a bathing suit, too, from Brasil . 6 Q. We have some telephone numbers that we wanted 7 to ask you about. 8 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 9 Q. Just to see if you recognize these or if you 10 ever used any of these numbers that might have been old 11 telephone numbers for you at some point. T don't know 12 how many cell phones you may have had through the years. 13 See if you recognize any of 'hose. 14 A. was my number. 15 BY MS. BILAF0NIA: 16 Q. what was AIIIII.g number? 17 A. s? 18 Q. Yeah. 19 A. what. my baby's father? 70 Q. Yeah. 21 A. oh, I never knew his. always I just, you know, 22 called him and I never knew his number. 23 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 24 Q. It was programmed in your phone? 25 A. veah. Su i don't know. T just know • Page 44 EFTA00592577 1211 Vigg79:138PMe736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa WV Ors 63 • • 2007-04-o I .TXT 43 1 be(auso that was my old number like a long time ago. 2 NY MS. BILAFONIA: 3 Q. At the time that you wore bringing girls over 4 to the house, were you also working a regular job? 5 A. T worked at City Pizza for a little while, hut 6 no. kind of retired and splurged. I didn't have any 7 hills to pay. I saved. 1 put money in the hank. so -- ft Q. we had talked about C will betore. Do 9 you know someone named C 10 A. C' I uh huh. lI Q. And who is that? 12 A. I brought her a couple times. who is that? 13 Q. T. mean, did you go to school with her or how 14 did you know her? 15 A. oh, I had asked one of my friends. 1 said do 16 you have any -- It was a guy friend. I said do you have I7 any girls that are willing to give massages and I met up 18 with her. I called her. I talked to her on the phone. 19 1 met up with her and she said yeah. cool. 20 Q. And you said you took her over there A couple 21 of times? 22 A. Yeah, she went over there more. she went over 73 there more than a couple times. 24 Q. Rut you brought her every time that she went 25 over there? • rage 45 EFTA00592578 12/11/2007 1.3.50 Fitt C /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa cifiridr9 63 • • • 2007 04-25 aXT 44 1 A. That I know of. That t know or, yeah. 2 O. okay. Did you ever tell any of the girls that they would be going over to model lingerie? 4 A. No. T told them we were going to go Jeffrey's S house and it's going to be a topless massage pretty much. 6 Anything you don't want to do, you don't have to do and 7 it's S200, badda-bing, badda-boom. You make $200 in 30 S minutes. 9 Q. Old any of the girls complain about what 10 happened after they left there? 11 A. NO. You asked me that question. No, everybody 12 loved Jeffrey. 13 q. No one called you and said, I think that you 14 should call -- I think that we should call the police? IS A. No. 16 O. No one told you that? 17 A. No. no, oh, my Cod. And who is that coming 18 trom7 19 O. We just have phone calls that seem to 20 contradict what you're telling us? 21 A. Oh, so you think that people came to me and 22 said that I'm to call the police on Jeffrey? 23 BY AGENT RTCHARDS: 24 Q. Was there anyone that thought that what Mr. 25 Lpstein was doing was inappropriate and was concerned Page 46 EFTA00592579 tviegv 9ligm4AL our36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Fade GIEM488 63 7.007.04-25 IXT 45 1 about that? 2 A. Every girl that T brought to Jeffrey. they said • • 3 they were fine with it. And like. for instance. c 4 c 4III, a lot of girls begged me In bring them 5 back. They wanted to come back for the money. And as 6 far as I know, we all had fun there. we ate al l the 7 food. He gave us free bikinis. NO, nothing about any 8 cops. 9 O. I mean, was there anyone that thought what he 10 was doing may have been a little bit wrong? Not wanting 11 to report to the police, but just saying. you know. 12 that's kind of weird? 13 A. we talked about it like because we were 14 underage, but he thought that we were 18. we were like IS hopeful ly that no one finds out. Hopefully, Jeffrey 16 doesn't find out our age. Rut other than that. not 17 calling the cops. 1$ tlY MS. tittAfottIA: 19 Q. was anybody upset that he was masturbating? I 20 know that you said you told them that they would possibly 21 do the massage topless. They might have expected that. 22 was somebody shocked -- 23 A. yeah. of course. I mean, he always told them, 24 okay. and I told them. too. I said if you're going to go 75 there, then you don't have to do anything that you're not Page 47 EFTA00592580 12/11/2007 Lt 58 E au AJL case 9:08-cv- /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagi@Vitit99 63 • • • 2001 04 75 Txr 46 1 comfortable with. A couple girls when they did come out 2 of there, they're l ike oh, my God. I wasn't expecting all 3 of that, but he always asked them and I asked them. 4 they'd say that, you know, he asked me are you comfortable with this and say yes. Maybe they 6 were scared, who know:. But yeah, they came out of there 7 like oh, my trod. that was kind of weird, you know, yeah. 8 Q. were any of them upset about it? 9 A. On they like regret it or something? 10 BY AGCNT RtcmakOS: 1.1 Q. lust shaken up, you know, just kind of shocked? 12 A. A couple of girls -- well, see, we were So 13 young and Ieffrey didn't know that. Like the whole rhinq 14 was shooken up when t brought them there. And see. 1 15 don't know thought that they were, you know, mast of 16 the girls that 1 did firing there, they were 18. 19, 20. 17 But I remember there was a couple times that I had 18 brought like maybe 16 year olds or something, my age. 19 And they -- 1 dun's know. It's like they were scared to 20 say that they were 18. They were like what if he finds Zl out? And they were a little shook up about. that, the age 22 thing. But and afterwards like if he climaxed or 23 whatever• if they were like shooken up, III like it's 24 okay, you know. And they were like oh, I wasn't rage 48 EFTA00592581 12/11/2007 11 58 FAL Case 9:08-cv-8L f36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ WM" 63 • • • )007 n4-2S TXT expecting that, but they tol!IIIR ley that, you know, 47 1 they were comfortable with it. tf anything, you know. maybe they were scared and they felt like obligated, like 3 they didn't want ro say. T was thinking that they didn't 4 want to say like no, you know, 1 don't want to do that, so who know:. I wasn't up there with them, so I couldn' t 6 tell you. 7 CV AGENT RTOIAROS: 8 Q. who were the ladies who mentioned that to you who were kind of shocked? A. usually. the girls that I would bring l ike one 11 rime and I wouldn't even see them again. 12 Q. Can you help me out with some names, though? 13 A. Huh-uh. no. i can't remember her name. She't, 14 on the cop or my oh, my cod. 1 don't remember. I IS can't remember. 16 BY MS. RT/ArONIA' 17 0. None of the girls wanted to go to the 18 authorities? Nobody was that uW.el that called you or 19 spoke to you that was upset wi th what had happened to the 7(1 point that they wanted ro report it? 21 A, No, no. If anything. thank you. TS so much 22 because I really could use the money. >3 8Y AGFNU RICHARD'S; Page 49 EFTA00592582 12/1142asW. 91:uo FAX e .1k5S-cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaV81/499 63 2007-04 2S -.TXT 24 U. Do you know the names of some of the girls that 75 you brought? 48 • 1 A. uuh? 2 Q. Do you know the name of some of the girls you 3 brought other than the ones that we've talked about right 4 now? A. like I said. I can't remember because usually 6 there -- 7 Q. There's about 30 of them, co you've got to 8 know -- 9 A. No, I don't know because there were girls that 10 I didn't IIII know so, you know. T just asked them. 1.1 said, Hey, would you like to make some money? Here's my 12 number. Do you want to III! money? Here's my number, 14 you know, and that's how it went. 50 I don't remember 14 the names and t real ly didn't' tare in know their names. 15 anyway. 16 Q. Do you know their phone numbers? 17 A. Now? 18 Q. Yeah. 19 A. No. 20 Q. Do you know any of their phone numbers? A. No, no, no. that was years ago. Page 50 EFTA00592583 12/11/2007 11'53 FJOL case 9:08-cv-au /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PadCIE49129 63 • • • 2007-04-25 2? Q. we're just trying to find any other ladies out 23 there that we haven't already seen and you brought 30 of 24 them and we're just trying to - 25 A. I don't know if t brought 30 of them. 49 1 Q. Approximate? 2 A. yeah. No. I have nn clue, no idea. RV MS. RILAFONIA: 4 Q. Did you stay in touch with any of the girls 5 that you brought? 6 A. Huh-uh. 7 Q. al. any of the girls that we've 8 talked about? Did you ever when you were either bringing 9 girls or when you were giving massages. did you ever 10 drink anything or take any drugs, whether it was 11 prescription drugs? 12 A. I heard this on the news, no. It's ridiculous. 13 Q. You never took any drugs? 14 A. Never. 15 0. Did any of the girls take drugs? Did you know 16 that they were talking drugs? 17 A. There was no alcohol. there was no drugs, no. 18 0. None of the girls that you brought were using 19 drugs? 10 A. NO. Page 51 EFTA00592584 12/1L/20 11'5S TAY eas07 e 9:u8cv-su736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa*Ig45499 63 • • • 2007-04-75 IXi 71. Q. And just so you know, Ta. we're not talking 22 about necessarily crack cocaine. we're wondering if ?3 anybody was taking any prescription mediration? 29 A. I don't know if they were taking prescription 25 medication. That's their problem. I don't know. 50 t Q. And you didn't give anybody else any 2 prescription drugs? 3 A. Nu, no. when I was 16, t smoked pot, hut no. 4 (Start of Tape 2.) 5 MK. EISENBERG: okay. gang, back on the record. 6 And L assume you mean prescription medication not 7 for prescription purposes? B THE WITNESS: I thought you meant like for 9 prescription. prescribed. No, I don't know. 10 AGENT RIcHARDS: okay. it BY MS. BItAFON/A: 12 Q. But you weren't taking any anti-depressantt. or 1.5 pills nr anything? 14 A. No, no, I just smoked pot. Hut I mostly lilt 15 there sober. t was comfortable with Jeffrey. Jeffrey 16 always made me feel so comfortable. I thought 1 was a 17 big girl. I was 16. 18 O. You said that you stopped. why did you stop Page 52 EFTA00592585 12/11/2007 .1'59 FAx ease 9:1u8-cv-ou736-KikNA Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa*Wildr 8 63 2007-04-7S Txr 19 going over there? Thu said !!!, n baby and you 20 changed? 21 A. Yeah. 22 Q. What happened? 23 A. rverything changed in my life, everything. 24 ended up getting a job and I just stopped. I just 25 stopped. I don't know. S1 • 1 Q. Rut if you felt so comfortable, why did you 2 stop going over there? 3 A. 7 just stopped because I have a son now and 7 4 didn't feel like it was right. First off, I was a 5 stay-at-home mommy, okay. And what am I going to do, 6 bring my son over there to Jeffrey's, no. you know. So I 7 focused on my son. I had a beautiful baby boy that was 8 my pride and joy. I didn't care for anything else. 9 didn't care to tell friends. I dropped all my friends. 10 Like he asked me do 7 have any numbers, no, you know. 7f 11 anybody does call me. that's my mother. Like it was just 12 me and my baby boy and it's been like that ever since. 13 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 14 Q. Having a baby is a life-changing expericnce. 15 isn't it? 16 A. Having a baby? l7 Q. Yes. i i's tull-time. page S3 EFTA00592586 12(1112007 59 EAI case 9:08-cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaatIgieP9 63 • • • 2007 04 25 TXT Ig A. Awesome, I love it. I love it. 19 Q. yeah, he'll be two in August. 10 A. mine will he two in June. 21 RV MS. gtiArowtA: 22 Q. Is that when you started working with the 23 company you're working for now? 24 A. Well. I was -- the whole time I was pregnant. I 75 was taken can of by my baby's father. Then I was a SZ 1 stay at-home mommy for eight months. After that, I 2 worked at LA fitness, Romeo Pizza. It's been a year now. 3 And what do you mean, is that why I'm working? 4 O. No. t. just didn't know where you were working. I thought you said you had gotten a job afterwards, after 6 the baby waS born? 7 A. veah, I worked at the laundromat for a couple 8 of days. I just like to -- I wanted to soak in my son. 9 That's all t did and I was like a hermit crab in the 10 house, you know. And if anybody -- I told -- 1 told 11 Sara. 7 said. you know, I have a baby now and you know, 12 III rather stay at home with my baby. My old man was 13 taking care of me. I didn't care about money. 14 Everylhing was good. so a new life. 15 RV AGENT RICHARDS: Page 54 EFTA00592587 1"1/3in79!(38W5t5736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Paid1 99 63 • • • 2007-04 25 1'x7 if) Q. speaking of work, w en you set up appointments 17 with sara. did she refer to what the girls were doing as 18 work, like would they go over to ieftrey's to work for t9 massage or 20 A. NO. 21 Q. -- how did she -- were any terms used nr just 22 in general? Did she ask you it you had any girls that 23 can work or did you have any girls that can come over? 24 Do you have any girls I'll can give a Jeffrey a massage? 2S now did she ask for these appointments? 53 1 A. all of the above: lx) you have any girls that 2 would like to come over? uo you have any girls that 3 would like to work? Yeah, all of the above, really. 4 mean, me and Sara were really -- it's like a friend relationship. she's fun. No. it wasn't like a specific 6 like hey, you know, du you want to come over and work, 7 no. It was all different: massage, work, whatever. H Q. Okay. 9 BY NS. BILAFONIA: 10 Q. you said that you and Sara had developed a 11 friendly relationship. Did Sara ever tell you what types 12 of girls Jeffrey wanted or I think you said that 13 sometimes she would say he likes this girl or III sorry. 14 he likes this girl? Paco s5 EFTA00592588 12/1t06 79!808vEN5736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa64 / 17/899 63 7007 04-25 TxT 15 A. Yeah. 16 Q. what exactly -- what guidance did she give you 17 about recruiting the girls? 18 A. She didn't give me 'I'll'''. Jeffrey from the 1') get-go, I really like women like you. SO when I would go 20 searching to make money or whatever or my girlfriends, 1 21 know what an attractive person looks like and I would -- 22 1 would bring them, you know. I didn't bring any 73 overweight people. I lust knew what Jeffrey lila you 24 know. 25 Q. Did you ever talk to Sara massages when you • 54 • 1 gave them, what you did, what you would do? 2 A. muh-uh. I didn't know it she knew or not. Q. T have a picture of someone and I'm just 4 wondering if you recognize this person? A. NO. Was she a girl that was over there? Q. Just a face that we wanted to 7 A. Okay. No. I don't know. BY AGENT RICHARDS: 9 Q. when you would ask the ladies if like to 10 go over to see Jeffrey, what was the percentage? How 11 many people would say sure. that sounds good. let'S go 12 do it. And how many would just say, no, I'm not nage 56 EFTA00592589 12/1 1/2007 12:08-:00 FAX case 9 cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaVeg/SP9 63 2007-On-2S Tn 1.3 . T mean, do you have -- how often when you 14 would ask the girls -- 15 A. Tr was usually girls thai t brought, the girls 16 that 1 had brought like first five girls, say. T would 17 say. Listen, you know, recruit your girlfriends and it 18 would go down the line. Recruit your girlfriends and 19 will pay you guys. So if t was off the wall, say I was, 20 you know, at a club or something and .L was like hey. 21 girl, do you want to -- be like you're crazy, you 22 know. 23 O. That's what t wondered, when you approached 74 them what was the reaction? ZS A. Rut when t talked to them over the phone, if it 5S • .t was one of my girlfriends' friends or one of their 2 friends, r would tell them exactly and be like okay. you know. And some girls weren't comfortable with it. YOU know, how your murals are or whatever, if you're S comfortable with your body, if you're comfortable with 6 giving an old man a massage for 5200. 7 Q. For 30 minutes. A. You know, everybody is a diff PerSon. 9 Q. Sure. 10 A. Rut most of the girls were they were like Ll yeah, sure, yeah. Page 57 EFTA00592590 iz/11/Z0ur lz 00 t&A, Case 9:08-cv- 1736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaVgY8r 63 • • • 2007-04-25 .TxT 12 RY l4S. BILAFONIA: 13 Q. Did you ever say anything about, you know, be 14 careful who you talk to about this or 1 guess III 15 wondering why, you know, were rumors going around at 16 school or how did everything keep under wraps? 17 A. Everybody knew. i don't know. Everybody made la jokes about it. like it was not in school. It was more 19 like in my neighborhood. They would call me meidi Heish 20 and everybody just made jokes about it. I don't know. 21 it wasn't -- but I didn't care. 22 Q. Right. 23 A. You know, it wasn't if you didn't get nut • it 24 wasn't really a big thing to me at all. 25 Q. I guess III just wondering, you know• kind of SG 1 the way that this all came out was finally a parent tound out about it -- 4 A. Yeah, I heard. 4 Q. -- and went ballistic. mow did you keep these S girls. parents from finding out? 6 A. I don't know, prohably embarrassing. They 7 obviously liked 3effrey that much that they didn't tell S anyone. 9 Q. Did anybody hassle you at school? Did anybody Page 58 EFTA00592591 12/11/200 1.2 00 F.AY_ ease79:u8-cy-sor36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padi1031099 63 • • • 2007-04 25 IiiiiiITxT 10 cal l you Heidi Fleish at schoo . 11 A. No. no, no, I was out of school by then. No. 12 0. why did you drop out of school? 11 A. well, actually, -- why? 14 Q. I'm Sorry. I interrupted you. 15 A. Because -- no, you didn't. well, my mother had Iti took me me put. of school to home-school me. And then 17 had went bark to a school because I was really behind 18 because she didn't home-school me and I had got pregnant, 19 that's why. And that's in the eleventh grade, that's 2O when I gut cwt because I was pregnant. And A decided 21 that I was -- I mean. I didn't know what I was doing. I 22 wanted to have a house. I said I'm going to have this 23 baby. I need to have a house, a car, and I set out all 24 my goals and that's what happened. But then I ended up 15 vetting my GED and I have a life. 57 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 2 Q. were there ever any girls that came to you 3 wanting to work over there that said hey. ■ like to go 4 work over there and make $200 bucks? Did you have any of 5 that? A. uh-huh. 7 Q. ' Do you remember any of their names or were they 8 classmates or Page 59 EFTA00592592 12/112200 01 EAS ease79:uo-cv-au736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa0 149/098 63 • • 1007 04 25 9 A. It wasn't --Tt wasn't involved in the school so 10 much. Tt was just that r girl in the school. It Q. okay. so she was really the only like 12 school-related -- 13 A. Like person from school, yeah. 14 Q. Okay. 15 A. Rut it was mostly out of school. So I wasn't 16 really hanging out with the best crowd. And all the 17 people that I did hang out with, they were dropouts. So Is it wasn't anything in school. It was mostly like the 19 neighborhood people or my friend. one of my guy friends' 20 girlfriend or whatever, you know. we were all young and 21 stupid, but -- 2? BY MS. BILAVONIA: 73 Q. Anything else? Do you have any questions for 24 any of us, for me or -- 25 A. No, but T hope -- I hope Jeffrey, nothing 58 1 happens to Jeffrey because he's an awesome man and it 2 would really be a shame. It's a shame that he has to go 3 through this because he's an awesome guy and he didn't do 4 nothing wrong, nothing. 5 Q. Are you in love with him at all? 6 A. My nod, no. 1 love him as a friend. I love Page 60 EFTA00592593 12/1162m 91:6A pI a, biu c 736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 PaWgY8P 63 2007 04 2S111111[W 7 him as a friend. He has done so much for me. No. I'm not in love with him. 1 tell 3effrey. do you want to 9 marry me with all of the money that you have. ill AGENT RICHARDS: All right. At this lime, 11 we're going to conclude the interview. It is 5:34 12 by my watch. 13 MR. EISENSERG: ;he only thing we'll correct is 14 that there might have been a reference to an old guy 15 at 50 and we'll just say a more mature individual 16 who may be in his 50s. Thank you. 17 (End of the tape.) IS 19 70 21. 22 23 74 2S 59 1 CERTIFICATE The State of Florida. ) • Pane 61 EFTA00592594 12/11/2007 UL01 DUL case 9:us-cv-su /36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padt tinffs9 63 2001-04-25 Txt 6 county of palm Reach. ) 7 $ 10 i. vicki S. woodham. Notary Public. do hereby 11 Certify that T was authorized to and did listen to and 12 stenographically transcribe the foregoing tape-recorded 1.3 proceedings and that the transcript is a true record to 14 the best of my ability. IS 16 Dated this 26th day of April. 7007. 17 18 19 20 77 vicki s. wnndham My Commission Expires: 74 December 08, 2010 IS COMMisci0O NO.: no617559 60 • rage 62 EFTA00592595