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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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Plaintiff,
v.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL
Defendant.
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15-cv-07433-RWS
DEFENDANT'S REPLY IN SUPPORT OF MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE IN
TOTO CERTAIN DEPOSITIONS DESIGNATED BY PLAINTIFF FOR USE AT TRIAL
Laura A. Menninger
Jeffrey S. Pagliuca
Ty Gee
HADDON, MORGAN AND FOREMAN, P.C.
150 East 10th Avenue
Denver, CO 80203
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Defendant Ghislaine Maxwell ("Ms. Maxwell") files her Reply in Support of the Motion
in Limine to Exclude In Toto certain depositions designated by Plaintiff for use at trial and states
as follows:
I.
PLAINTIFF CANNOT SATSIFY THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR USE OF
CERTAIN DEPOSITIONS AT TRIAL
A.
Jeffrey Epstein and Ronald Rizzo Are Not Unavailable
Plaintiff cannot claim that Jeffery Epstein and Ronald Rizzo are "unavailable witnesses"
whose testimony can be presented by deposition at trial under Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of
Civil Procedure. She admits she simply had not, prior to designating testimony, even attempted
to serve these witnesses or obtain their attendance at trial. She has now obtained an agreement to
accept service by Mr. Epstein's counsel, mooting any claim that he is unavailable.' With respect
to Mr. Rizzo, she concedes he resides within 100 miles of the courthouse, and provides no basis
to claim that he cannot be served. Based on these confessions, the Motion in Limine to exclude
the use of the designated portions of these depositions in toto must be granted.
B.
As a Retained Expert, Phillip Esplin Cannot Be Deemed Unavailable
Plaintiff's argument concerning Phillip Esplin fails to acknowledge or even address the
cases cited that require that prior to being permitted to use prior sworn testimony of an expert
witness she must carry the affirmative burden on proving: 1) Plaintiff "attempt[ed] to secure the
voluntary [trial] attendance of a witness who lives beyond the subpoena power of the court" and
2) that no similar expert is available. Carter-Wallace, Inc. v. Otte, 474 F.2d 529, 536 (2d Cir.
1972). Plaintiff cannot carry this burden, requiring that the Motion in Limine be granted.
I Issues concerning if Mr. Epstein should be required to appear to invoke this fifth amendment rights will
be addressed in Response to Plaintiffs Motion to Present Testimony from Jeffrey Epstein for Purposes of Obtaining
an Adverse Inference.
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Plaintiff's misplaced argument that Ms. Maxwell is somehow required to make Dr.
Esplin available at trial violates the fundamental rules of trial and the requirements for rebuttal
witnesses. Of course, at this point, Ms. Maxwell does not know information Plaintiff may
present in her case-in-chief. Ms. Maxwell has filed well-founded motions in limine to exclude
the testimony of both Dr. Kliman and Professor Coonan prohibiting from providing their
credibility and vouching opinions. This is the subject matter of Dr. Esplin's rebuttal report
which explains that there is no reliable or scientific methodology by which an expert could
reliably come to such opinions. Of course, if the improper testimony by Dr. Kliman and
Professor Coonan is excluded, as it should be, there will be nothing for Dr. Esplin to "rebut" and
he will not be called as a witness in the defense case-in-chief. In light of the well settled rules
that a rebuttal expert is "intended solely to contradict or rebut evidence on the same subject
matter identified" in the expert report of another party, there would be no basis to for Dr. Esplin
to testify if Kliman and Coonan are excluded. Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(a)(2)(C)(ii). Moreover, because
Dr. Esplin is a designated rebuttal expert, it is entirely improper to have any portion of his
opinions or testimony presented in the Plaintiff's case in chief. See Lindner v. Meadow Gold
Dairies, Inc., 249 F.R.D. 625, 636 (D. Hawaii 2008) (holding that individuals designated only as
rebuttal experts could present limited testimony, could not testify as part of a party's case-in-
chief, and would not be allowed to testify "unless and until" the experts they were designated to
rebut testified at trial); Johnson v. Grays Harbor Only. Hosp., No. C06-5502BHS, 2007 WL
4510313, at *2 (W.D.Wash. Dec. 18, 2007) (finding that experts designated as rebuttal witnesses
would "be permitted only to offer rebuttal testimony at trial"). Plaintiff also fails to explain how
the designated testimony could be deemed permissible given that the questions posed were all
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outside of the scope of Dr. Esplin's opinion. While Plaintiff may wish to waive this requirement
of the rules of procedure and evidence, Ms. Maxwell does not.
Regardless, any decisions Ms. Maxwell and the undersigned counsel decide to make
concerning their presentation of the defense and which witness to call is ours alone to make.
There is no requirement that a party call a designated expert to testify if they choose not to do so
at the time of trial. Such strategic decisions are solely in the province of the parties and their
counsel. If Dr. Esplin is presented as a rebuttal witness by the defense, he will appear live. If he
is not, then there is no rebuttal witness, and none to cross examine.
II.
MS.
WAS NOT PROPERLY "REFRESHED" AND THE READING OF
THE HEARSAY POLICE REPORT IS INADMISSABLE
The use of the deposition testimony o
and the reading or summary of
hearsay statement in the Police Report sought to be admitted through counsel's questions is
simply improper. As a small sampling of the designated testimony makes clear, there was no
proper "refreshing" of recollection:
Q. Do you remember how old you were when you met Jeffrey Epstein?
A. Sixteen or 17.
Q. Okay. And have you reviewed —
A. I may have been 15. I don't recall. I apologize.
Q. If you told the police officer 16, you were telling the truth?
A. At the time, they were fresh.
Q. Okay. After speaking to the police or while speaking to the police, do you remember
telling them that you're not safe because you're talking about this?
MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. EDWARDS:
Q. And that you had heard Jeffrey Epstein making threats to people on the telephone?
MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation.
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THE WITNESS: Yes. He wasn't always friendly
See Menninger Decl., Ex. F, 10:6-14; 43:15-44:4
As explained in in Wright & Miller, Federal Practice and Procedures, the use of a
document during testimony to refresh recollections is limited:
The law also places limits on how counsel and the witness may use a writing to refresh
memory. In the usual case counsel will hand the witness the writing, show counsel for the
adverse parties a copy, and ask the witness to silently read the writing. Counsel then will
ask the witness if the writing has refreshed the witness' memory. If the witness responds
in the affirmative, counsel will retrieve the writing and ask the witness to testify as to the
matters on which the witness' memory was refreshed. Even where the witness claims a
refreshed recollection, the court again has discretion to preclude further testimony if the
circumstances suggest that the writing engendered a false memory. If the witness states
that his recollection has not been refreshed, he cannot then testify as to the contents of the
writing unless it is shown that the writing itself is admissible.
§ 6184Refreshing Memory—Requirements and Procedures, 28 Fed. Prac. & Proc. Evid. § 6184
(2d ed.)(intemal citations omitted); see also Goings v. U.S., 377 F.2d 753, 759-762 (8th Cir.
1967) (trial court improperly permitted prosecutor to ask leading questions concerning contents
of witness' written statement under the pretext of refreshing recollection but without laying the
proper foundation; "[I] fa party can offer a previously given statement to substitute for a
witness's testimony under the guise of `refreshing recollection,' the whole adversary system of
trial must be revised. The evil of this practice hardly merits discussion. The evil is no less when
an attorney can read the statement in the presence of the jury and thereby substitute his spoken
word for the written document.") (italics in original). Gaines v. United States, 349 F.2d 190, 192
(D.C. Cir. I965)(error to allow prior written statement to be read to the witness in front of the
jury for the purpose of refreshing recollection because "it was not necessary for counsel to read
the statements aloud in the jury's presence. This is liable to cause the jury to consider their
contents as evidence notwithstanding instructions to the contrary.")
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All testimony from =deposition
based on leading questions summarizing her
hearsay statements in the police report must be excluded.
With respect to the police report itself, this will obviously be a subject of a Motion in
Limine. At this time, two points will suffice. Plaintiff's claim that she is not attempting to offer
the police report for the truth of the matters asserted therein is farcical, which is evident in every
briefing touching on the subject matter. Second, while the full 803(8) issue will be briefed, for
present purposes we will simply point out that
(or any other witnesses statement
contained in the report) will never be admissible unless there is a separate and independent
hearsay exemptions for such statement. As the Second Circuit has clearly held:
"It is well established that entries in a police report which result from the officer's
own observations and knowledge may be admitted but that statements made by
third persons under no business duty to report may not." United States v. Pazsint,
703 F.2d 420, 424 (9 Cir.I983) (emphasis in original).
Parsons v. Honeywell, Inc., 929 F.2d 901, 907 (2d Cir. 1991)(quoting United States v. Pazsint,
703 F.2d 420, 424 (9[th] Cir.I983)).
Plaintiff does not address the objections to
leposition under Fed. R. Evid. 401,
402 and 602 based on lack of personal knowledge, or the issues concerning the improper leading
of this witness. They should thus be deemed confessed and are not re-argued here.
III.
TESTIMONY AND STATEMENTS MADE IN OTHER MATTERS TO WHICH
MS. MAXWELL WAS NOT A PARTY, WAS NOT PRESENT, HAD NO NOTICE,
AND DID NOT PARTICIPATE CANNOT BE DESIGNATED IN THIS CASE
Plaintiff does not seriously contest that the requirements of Fed. R. Civ. P. 32 and Fed. R.
Evid. 804 cannot be met with respect to Mr. Rodriguez's deposition testimony. Indeed, the
Plaintiff's Motions to Exclude Designation of Depositions Excerpts of Alan Dershowitz and
Plaintiff argued this precise point. Ms. Maxwell was not a party to any of the litigations in which
Mr. Rodriguez was deposed; Ms. Maxwell was neither present or given notice of the deposition.
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Likewise, under Rule 32(a)(8), the subject matters of those litigations were completely different.
The cases were personal claims against Mr. Epstein by various individuals. There could be no
identity of issues between those matters and this case. Those cases were about personal claims
against Mr. Epstein and had nothing to do with Ms. Maxwell. This case is about a statement by
Ms. Maxwell's press agent made over 6 years later. There could be no motivations to develop
similar testimony because the claims in this action by definition did not exist when the
depositions was taken.
Mr. Epstein's counsel had no motive to discuss anything concerning Ms. Maxwell. He
certainly had no motive to cross-examine Mr. Rodriguez regarding any interactions between Ms.
Maxwell and Plaintiff given that Mr. Rodriguez had never met Plaintiff. The sheer lack of
discussion of Ms. Maxwell, or follow up on any of the statements made concerning Ms. Maxwell
makes clear there was simply no similar motive for Mr. Epstein's counsel to cross examine Mr.
Rodriguez as Ms. Maxwell would have in this case.
Knowing that any argument for admission under Fed. R. Civ. P. 32 and Fed. R. Evid. 804
must fail, Plaintiff throws a Hail Mary and seeks admission of the testimony under the "Residual
Hearsay" clause, 807. It is apparent that this is the new go-to for Plaintiff because of the serious
evidentiary issues with the evidence she seeks to admit. Congress was very clear that it
" intended that the residual hearsay exceptions will be used very rarely, and only in exceptional
circumstances." Committee on the Judiciary, S.Rep.No.93-1277, Note to Paragraph (24), 28
U.S.C.A. Fed. R. Evid. p. 583 (1975). For this reason, it set very specific parameters that, none
of which are satisfactorily met in the circumstances here.
(1) the statement has equivalent circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness;
(2) it is offered as evidence of a material fact;
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(3) it is more probative on the point for which it is offered than any other evidence that
the proponent can obtain through reasonable efforts; and
(4) admitting it will best serve the purposes of these rules and the interests of justice.
There is nothing trustworthy about Mr. Rodriguez or his statements. Mr. Rodriguez is a
convicted criminal. and was convicted for obstruction of justice based on the very testimony
Plaintiff seeks to admit. He either created evidence to use in those proceedings, or he hid
evidence in them. Either way, his entire testimony is inherently untrustworthy.
Mr. Rodriguez has no knowledge of any fact material to this case. He flatly testifies that
he had never heard or, met or seen the Plaintiff. He worked for Mr. Epstein over 2 years after
Plaintiff left the country. Nothing Mr. Rodriguez could have possibly testified to, even if he was
alive, has any bearing on any material fact.
Plaintiff's attempt to claim that Mr. Rodriguez's testimony "is more probative on the
point for which it is offered than any other evidence that the proponent can obtain through
reasonable efforts" is at best disingenuous. Plaintiff has designated the testimony of Juan Alessi,
Mr. Rodriguez's predecessor who held that position during the timeframe in which Plaintiff
claims to have been held as a "sex slave" by Mr. Epstein. It simply defies logic to claim that Mr.
Rodriguez' testimony would somehow be more probative than that of the person in his same
position at the time Plaintiff alleges she was being held captive as a sex slave.
Finally, nothing about the testimony will best serve the purposes of the rules or evidence
or justice. Mr. Rodriguez's testimony is nothing more than hearsay and speculation, as pointed
out in the specific objections. The purpose of the rules is thwarted, not served, by the admission
of any portion of this wholly irrelevant and improper testimony.
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CONCLUSION
For the forgoing reasons, and those set forth in the Defendant's Motion In Limine To
Exclude In Toto Certain Depositions Designated By Plaintiff For Use At Trial, Ms. Maxwell
requests that the relief requested therein be granted.
Dated: February 17, 2017
Respectfully submitted,
Is/ Laura A. Menninger
Laura A. Menninger (LM-1374)
Jeffrey S. Pagliuca (pro hac vice)
Ty Gee (pro hac vice)
HADDON, MORGAN AND FOREMAN, P.C.
150 East 10th Avenue
Denver, CO 80203
Phone:
Fax:
Attorneys for Ghislaine Maxwell
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I certify that on February 17, 2017, I electronically served this Defendant's Reply In
Support Of Motion In Limine To Exclude In Toto Certain Depositions Designated By Plaintiff
For Use At Trial via ECF on the following:
Sigrid S. McCawley
Paul G. Cassell
Meredith Schultz
383 S. University Street
BOLES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER, LLP
Salt Lake it UT 4112
401 East Las Olas Boulevard, Ste. 1200
Ft.
Lauderdale FL
33301
Bradley J. Edwards
FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS,
FISTOS & LEHRMAN, P.L.
425 North Andrews Ave., Ste. 2
Ft. Lauderdale. FL 33301
J. Stanley Pottinger
49 Twin Lakes Rd.
South Salem NY 105 0
Is/ Nicole Simmons
Nicole Simmons
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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L.
Plaintiff,
v.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL,
Defendant.
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15-cv-07433-RWS
Declaration of Laura A. Menninger in Support of
Defendant's Reply in Support of Motion In Limine To Exclude In Toto
Certain Depositions Designated By Plaintiff For Use At Trial
I, Laura A. Menninger, declare as follows:
1. I am an attorney at law duly licensed in the State of New York and admitted to
practice in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. I am a
member of the law firm Haddon, Morgan & Foreman, P.C., counsel of record for Defendant
Ghislaine Maxwell in this action. I respectfully submit this Declaration in support of
Ms. Maxwell's Reply to her Motion in Limine to Exclude In Toto Certain Depositions
Designated by Plaintiff for Use at Trial.
2. Attached as Exhibit F (filed under seal) are true and correct copies of excerpts from
the deposition of
June 20, 2016, designated Confidential under the Protective
Order.
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Executed on February 17, 2017.
s/ Laura A. Menninger
Laura A. Menninger
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I certify that on February 17, 2017, I electronically served this Declaration of Laura A.
Menninger in Support of Defendant's Reply in Support of Motion in Limine to Exclude In Toto
Certain Depositions Designated by Plaintiff for Use at Trial via ECF on the following:
Sigrid S. McCawley
Meredith Schultz
BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER, LLP
401 East Las Olas Boulevard, Ste. 1200
Ft. Lauderdale. FL 33301
Bradley J. Edwards
FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS,
FISTOS & LEHRMAN, P.L.
425 North Andrews Ave., Ste. 2
Ft. Lauderdale. FL 33301
Paul G. Cassell
383 S. University Street
Salt Lake Cit iSU
UT
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J. Stanley Pottinger
49 Twin Lakes Rd.
South Salem NY 105 0
Is/ Nicole Simmons
Nicole Simmons
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EXHIBIT F
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
CASE NO. 15-CV-07433-RWS
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Plaintiff,
v.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL,
Defendant.
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June 20, 2016
9:12 a.m.
CONFIDENTIAL
Deposition of
, pursuant
to notice, taken by Plaintiff, at the
offices of Podhurst Orseck, 25 West
Flagler Street, Suite 800, Miami, Florida,
before Kelli Ann Willis, a Registered
Professional Reporter, Certified Realtime
Reporter and Notary Public within and
for the State of Florida.
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APPEARANCE
S:
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BOIES SCHILLER & FLEXNER, LLP
Attorneys for Plaintiff
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401 East Las Olas Boulevard
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
33301
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BY:
BRADLEY EDWARDS, ESQ.
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HADDON MORGAN & FOREMAN, P.C.
Attorneys for Defendant
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150 East 10th Avenue
Denver, Colorado 80203
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BY:
JEFFREY PAGLIUCA, ESQ.
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PODHURST ORSECK, P.A.
Attorneys for Deponent
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25 West Flagler Street
Suite 800
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Miami, Florida 33130
BY:
ROBERT JOSEFSBURG, ESQ.
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INDEX
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Examination by Mr. Edwards
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Examination by Mr. Pagliuca
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Further Examination by Mr. Edwards
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EXHIBITS
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Deposition Exhibit 1
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Police Interview
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A.
No, sir, I do not.
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Q.
Do you remember that the police officers
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tape-recorded the statement with you?
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A.
Vaguely, yes.
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Q.
Do you remember how old you were when you
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met Jeffrey Epstein?
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A.
Sixteen or 17.
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Q.
Okay. And have you reviewed
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A.
I may have been 15. I don't recall. I
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apologize.
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Q.
If you told the police officer 16, you
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were telling the truth?
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A.
At the time, they were fresh.
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MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and
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foundation.
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THE WITNESS: The facts were fresh at the
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time. But 12 years later, I don't recall.
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MR. PAGLIUCA: If you can just do a little
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pause in between his question and your answer.
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I need an opportunity to object to any form or
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foundation problem with his question.
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THE WITNESS: Sure.
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MR. PAGLIUCA: It helps the court reporter
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if the three of us are not talking at the same
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THE WITNESS: I do remember having several
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conversations about Bill Clinton and others.
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BY MR. EDWARDS:
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Q.
What do you remember saying about Bill
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Clinton?
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A.
They went on a trip to Africa with Kevin
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Spacey and that it really -- there was nothing
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specific about Bill Clinton other than I think it
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was a trip where they -- it was very vague. It was
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implied that they enjoyed themselves, however that
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was.
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There were specific things said about
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Spacey, but I cannot recall anything about Clinton.
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Q.
Okay. After speaking to the police or
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while speaking to the police, do you remember
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telling them that you're not safe because you're
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talking about this?
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MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and
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foundation.
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THE WITNESS: Yes.
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BY MR. EDWARDS:
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Q.
And that you had heard Jeffrey Epstein
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making threats to people on the telephone?
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MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and
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foundation.
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THE WITNESS: Yes. He wasn't always
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friendly.
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BY MR. EDWARDS:
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Q.
What type of threats do you remember
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hearing Jeffrey Epstein make to anyone?
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A.
Nothing specific. I do remember hostile
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conversations where he was upset with people, and I
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assumed that it was business and none of my
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business.
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Q.
Okay. You were asked by the detectives,
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"Things like, You're going to die; you're going to
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break your legs." And your response was: "All of
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the above."
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MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection.
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BY MR. EDWARDS:
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Q.
Do you remember those type of things?
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MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and
foundation.
THE WITNESS: Not specifically, no.
MR. EDWARDS:
Q.
Do you remember where you were when you
heard these conversations?
A.
Most of the time he was on the phone when
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CERTIFICATE OF OATH
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STATE OF FLORIDA
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COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE
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I, the undersigned authority, certify that
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personally appeared before
me and
was duly sworn.
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WITNESS my hand and official seal
this
23rd day of June, 2016.
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Kelli Ann Willis, RPR, CRR
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Notary Public, State of Florida
Commission FF928291, Expires 2-16-20
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CERTIFICATE
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STATE OF
FLORIDA )
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COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE )
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I, Kelli Ann Willis, Registered
Professional Reporter and Certified Realtime
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Reporter do hereby certify that
I was
authorized to and did stenographically report the
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foregoing deposition of
; that a
review of the transcript was not requested; and
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that the transcript is
a true record of my
stenographic notes.
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I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a
relative, employee, attorney, or counsel of
any
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of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee of
any of the parties' attorney or counsel connected
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with the action, nor am I financially interested
in the action.
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Dated this 23rd day of June, 2016.
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KELLI ANN WILLIS, RPR, CRR
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