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From: "Noam Chomsky"
To: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com>
CC: '
Subject: RE: Re:
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 02:41:47 +0000
Valeria's not here right now, so will have to check with her about late September. Really intriguing possibilities, and a
delightful offer.
On Yang, I read his work quite differently. He does make use of word frequencies and probability distributions, but as far
as I am aware in pretty straightforward and innocuous ways. And he's quite sophisticated about these matters. Smart and
interesting guy. You might want to contact him directly.
I don't recall his using Zipf's "laws," but it wouldn't matter much. Mandelbrot showed back in the '50s that they were a
statistical artifact, near meaningless. I was, incidentally, surprised to see how he dealt with this result in his
autobiography. I think he called it his "Keplerian moment," or something like that.
Noam
From: jeffrey E. [mailtoleevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:10 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re: Re:
I think you might try to plan on late september , taking my apt and spending a few days with valeria in the city,
As it is the openiing of the UN general assembly , as well as the Clinton global initiative New york is rife with
people with at least influence, if not new ideas. . I, we. can organize many fun interactions. my house becomes
a respite for the select few, to take off their ties , and talk openly. You would be welcome to join as many
create or participate as you prefer. yangs work deals with language as signals . his reliance on Zipf like
distributions is a good example of naive probablities.. empirically zipf appears. but cannot be derived from any
of his or anyones elses to date. so somewhat misleading to suggest the" probililty of word , x appearing, " it is
the mistake of frequency vs probablity, and careless common usage.
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Noam Chomsky
> wrote:
Sounds like a most interesting person. And someone it would be very interesting to talk to. I presume he spends time
in NY. Hope we can work it out.
Would be interested in learning more about your critique of the use of probability in language work, mostly by
computational cognitive scientists, as far as I know. I've written critiques of it too, but on different grounds: failure to
account for what they are trying to show, or even to understand the issue. There are, I think, some notable exceptions,
like the recent work of Charles Yang, one of Bob Berwick's students.
From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 8:22 AM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re:
He is the head of the human rights court in strasbourg. /
former prime minister of norway... He would be
happy to have a dinner with us. . subj. drones. solitary confinement , death penalty ( europe does not have
one , so if killing terrorists is to be under an act of war, argument , then they, as enemies ,have war rights. ).
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tribalism, mafia, syria, ukraine, saudi, egypt. libya, . We have a great friendship. - I give him his financial
ABC's class. he gives me my pragmatic politics lessons. fyi great similarity now as the old political guard
seem toreflect the patterns of the old long term investors, ( skills of. planning. executing . etc ) now
confronted by media . and pressured to make quick decisions. ie behaving like inexperienced short term
traders. fyi I have read a great number of language papers. many if not most, misuse the concept of
probability . making naive, erroneous uses of the word , hence forming nonsensical conclusions. ( like the
silly , life on other planets " calculation". probability needs repetition and symmetry, historical events do not
have either ! )
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Noam Chomsky
> wrote:
Glad it worked. Hope that the speech was of some interest.
From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:38 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject:
you would have been proud my friend the sec gen of the council of europe thjorborn jagland had to give
as speech on terrosism to the security counsel. Last night I presented your arguments, re hypocrisy, he
was shocked but loved it.
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