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From: "Noam Chomsky" To: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com> Subject: RE: Re: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 00:26:29 +0000 Below From: jeffrey E. [mailtoleevacation@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:09 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: you are a treat. I can study maxwell and boltmann but neither will help me turn on the light. Correct. But there is more to life and intellectual challenge than turning on lights. if we are to study ideal systems in humans. insects dont you agree we have to include a time scale , energy et.? We don't have to unless it enters into the inquiry. For some things yes, for others no. On another note do you think you woudl enjoy me bringing ehud barak up to martins to see you. he is very smart . and open. . maybe last week in june or so? Would be interesting to meet him, but the next couple of weeks are complicated. Let me check with Valeria.. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Noam Chomsky > wrote: It's not hard to add probability and other factors to automata and recursive function theory. Sometimes it's done, e.g., Shannon's studies of provability with probabilistic automata. It's very rarely done because of irrelevance. The deep problems are not advanced in any way that's known by bringing in these considerations. Just as one doesn't bring in energy or time in studying number theory. Back to the origins of modern science there's been controversy about studying ideal systems vs real world interactions. Galileo had a devilish time convincing the funders (aristocrats) that it made sense to study balls rolling down non- existent frictionless planes when it is so much more interesting to watch flowers grow and figure out how they do it. The modern sciences finally developed as it became clearer that if you ever want to study "real world interactions" in a revealing way, you'd better base the inquiry on what can be learned from "ideal forms of relationships" and by exploring the limits of current understanding. True across the board, including vision and language. With current Big Data options there are widespread beliefs that something serious can be learned by virtually brute force methods. Very common now, and I doubt that much will come of it. Rather like trying to find the laws of motion not as science did from Galileo on but by taking a huge number of videotapes of what's happening outside the window, storing them in an immense data bank, and using statistical analysis. From: jeffrey E. [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:38 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: I have lot of work to do. but it appear obvious to me that both automaton and recursive theory, totally ignore . time entropy and energy, ( probabiltiy ?) so while they might describe in mathmatically mastabatory terms EFTA00655833 some ideal forms of relationships. and some I admit very beautiful, the very small subset of real world interactions should be our focus.. please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation®gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved EFTA00655834