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23 April, 2012
Article 1.
The Washington Post
Nuclear weapon reductions must be part of
strategic analysis
Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft
Article 2.
The National Interest
The Fantasy of Zero Nukes
Amitai Etzioni
Article 3.
The Weekly Standard
Negotiations That Matter
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Article 4.
The Washington Post
Fears of extremism taking hold in Syria as violence
continues
Liz Sly.
Article 5.
Asharq Al-Awsat
interview: The PLO's Ahmad Quray
Kifah Zaboun
Article 6.
Hiirriyet Daily News
Turkey blocks Israel from NATO summit
Serkan Demirta
Ankle I.
The Washington Post
Nuclear weapon reductions must be nart of
strategic analysis
Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft
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April 23 -- A New START treaty reestablishing the process of nuclear arms
control has recently taken effect. Combined with reductions in the U.S.
defense budget, this will bring the number of nuclear weapons in the
United States to the lowest overall level since the 1950s. The Obama
administration is said to be considering negotiations for a new round of
nuclear reductions to bring about ceilings as low as 300 warheads. Before
momentum builds on that basis, we feel obliged to stress our conviction
that the goal of future negotiations should be strategic stability and that
lower numbers of weapons should be a consequence of strategic analysis,
not an abstract preconceived determination.
Regardless of one's vision of the ultimate future of nuclear weapons, the
overarching goal of contemporary U.S. nuclear policy must be to ensure
that nuclear weapons are never used. Strategic stability is not inherent with
low numbers of weapons; indeed, excessively low numbers could lead to a
situation in which surprise attacks are conceivable.
We supported ratification of the START treaty. We favor verification of
agreed reductions and procedures that enhance predictability and
transparency. One of us (Kissinger) has supported working toward the
elimination of nuclear weapons, albeit with the proviso that a series of
verifiable intermediate steps that maintain stability precede such an end
point and that every stage of the process be fully transparent and verifiable.
The precondition of the next phase of U.S. nuclear weapons policy must be
to enhance and enshrine the strategic stability that has preserved global
peace and prevented the use of nuclear weapons for two generations.
Eight key facts should govern such a policy:
First, strategic stability requires maintaining strategic forces of sufficient
size and composition that a first strike cannot reduce retaliation to a level
acceptable to the aggressor.
Second, in assessing the level of unacceptable damage, the United States
cannot assume that a potential enemy will adhere to values or calculations
identical to our own. We need a sufficient number of weapons to pose a
threat to what potential aggressors value under every conceivable
circumstance. We should avoid strategic analysis by mirror-imaging.
Third, the composition of our strategic forces cannot be defined by
numbers alone. It also depends on the type of delivery vehicles and their
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mix. If the composition of the U.S. deterrent force is modified as a result of
reduction, agreement or for other reasons, a sufficient variety must be
retained, together with a robust supporting command and control system,
so as to guarantee that a preemptive attack cannot succeed.
Fourth, in deciding on force levels and lower numbers, verification is
crucial. Particularly important is a determination of what level of
uncertainty threatens the calculation of stability. At present, that level is
well within the capabilities of the existing verification systems. We must be
certain that projected levels maintain — and when possible, reinforce —
that confidence.
Fifth, the global nonproliferation regime has been weakened to a point
where some of the proliferating countries are reported to have arsenals of
more than 100 weapons. And these arsenals are growing. At what lower
U.S. levels could these arsenals constitute a strategic threat? What will be
their strategic impact if deterrence breaks down in the overall strategic
relationship? Does this prospect open up the risk of hostile alliances
between countries whose forces individually are not adequate to challenge
strategic stability but that combined might overthrow the nuclear equation?
Sixth, this suggests that, below a level yet to be established, nuclear
reductions cannot be confined to Russia and the United States. As the
countries with the two largest nuclear arsenals, Russia and the United
States have a special responsibility. But other countries need to be brought
into the discussion when substantial reductions from existing START
levels are on the international agenda.
Seventh, strategic stability will be affected by other factors, such as missile
defenses and the roles and numbers of tactical nuclear weapons, which are
not now subject to agreed limitations. Precision-guided large conventional
warheads on long-range delivery vehicles provide another challenge to
stability. The interrelationship among these elements must be taken into
account in future negotiations.
Eighth, we must see to it that countries that have relied on American
nuclear protection maintain their confidence in the U.S. capability for
deterrence. If that confidence falters, they may be tempted by
accommodation to their adversaries or independent nuclear capabilities.
Nuclear weapons will continue to influence the international landscape as
part of strategy and an aspect of negotiation. The lessons learned
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throughout seven decades need to continue to govern the future.
Anicic 2.
The National Interest
The Fantasy of Zero Nukes
Amitai Etzioni
April 23, 2012 -- Nowhere is President Obama's tendency to confuse
speech making with policy making more evident than in his treatment of
nuclear weapons, the greatest threat to both U.S. security and world peace.
The main hot spots are well known: North Korea, Iran and Pakistan.
Instead, the president has focused for the last three years on Russia.
President Obama believes that the best way to deal with WMD is to lead
by example. He holds that, as the United States and Russia recommit
themselves to nuclear disarmament, other nations will be inspired to either
give up their nuclear arms or refrain from acquiring any. It is a policy Keith
B. Payne fairly labeled "nuclear utopianism."
The strategy that calls for the United States and Russia to lead the parade
to nuclear disarmament was formed by four highly regarded statesmen: the
quad of two Republicans, Henry Kissinger and George Schultz, as well as
two Democrats, Sam Nunn and William Perry. All four are very senior
veterans of the Cold War. Their strategy relies on reductions in the number
of warheads loaded on the two powers' strategic bombers and missiles, a
major threat before 1990 but not a hot issue today.
The quad's position is best understood in the context of the Nuclear Non-
Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that took effect in 1970, which created two
groups of nations: those that had nuclear weapons and agreed to give them
up, and those that did not have them and promised not to seek them. Many
of the nuclear have-not class of countries lived up to their NPT obligations
and ended their nascent military nuclear programs in the years that
followed, including South Africa, Argentina, Brazil and Egypt. But the
members of the "nuclear club"—China, Russia, the UK, France and the
United States—failed to honor their commitments. These failures are often
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cited by nations such as Iran when they vent their outrage at being
pressured by the United States and other nuclear "haves" to not acquire
nuclear weapons.
During his first major speech about nuclear arms, in Prague in 2009,
President Obama promised to make amends by moving toward the
promised land of zero nukes. In the following months, his administration
invested much energy in fashioning a treaty with Russia that did reduce the
nuclear weapons of the old Cold War adversaries. But the treaty had no
effect on the main sources of current threats: terrorists acquiring nukes in
Pakistan or North Korea and mounting them on long-range missiles, or
Iran employing them to threaten Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Moreover, zero is a dangerous notion. If either Russia or the U.S.
concealed ten weapons more than the levels currently permitted by the
treaty, it would matter little, since both countries have hundreds of them.
However, if one of the superpowers indeed gave up its entire nuclear
arsenal and the other then pulled ten out of a hiding place, it would pose a
major threat. Moreover, even if both Russia and the United States move to
a true and verified zero, any other nation that did not could blackmail one
or both superpowers and the rest of the world merely by threatening to use
its nuclear weapons.
A world of zero nukes may be merely a vision President Obama projected
to inspire other nations to give up their nuclear ambitions, but he has failed
to inspire any nation to give up its bombs or to stop making more.
Consider the reasons nations develop a nuclear arsenal. Whatever Russia
and the United States do will not stop them. For example, Pakistan is
retaining its weapons stockpile because India has a much bigger population
and can sustain a much larger conventional army than Pakistan. A nuclear
capability thus serves, from the viewpoint of Islamabad, as the main
deterrent against being overrun—Pakistan would maintain its arsenal even
if the US. and Russia dismantled their last nukes.
Iran seeks a nuclear weapon to deter attacks by the United States and its
allies, as a source of prestige and possibly as the means needed to wipe out
Israel. North Korea claims to need nuclear weapons to deter the United
States, Japan and South Korea from what it sees as their aggressive
tendencies—and views them as a major source of prestige as well. None of
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these reasons are much affected by whatever deals Moscow and
Washington are making.
Chasing the mirage of a world without nukes distracts attention and uses
up political capital badly needed for addressing urgent problems
concerning these arms. Top among these—if one is to focus on Russia—
are not strategic arms but the tactical nuclear bombs and fissile materials
terrorists seek. Russia has an estimated arsenal of tactical nukes between
five thousand and fourteen thousand, while the United States has about one
thousand. However, New START does not cover tactical weapons. It deals
exclusively with strategic weapons, which terrorists are extremely unlikely
to be able to handle.
The nuclear arsenals of rogue states and failing states are not being ignored
by the Obama administration. It is trying diplomacy, engagement and even
some sanctions in dealing with Iran, and it is desperately seeking ways to
deal with Pakistan and North Korea. But these discussions are on a
different track, where zero is not so much as mentioned.
Thus, we see another example in which Obama's speeches—which
presumably set the direction of US. foreign policy and are intended to
inspire other nations—are out of sync with the small efforts his
administration is making in handling the nuclear hot spots. Anyway you
look at it, the rhetoric about zero nukes is completely disconnected from
the international reality.
Amitai Etzioni's book The Hot Spots will be published by Transaction in
2012.
Anklc 3.
The Weekly Standard
Negotiations That Matter
Reuel Marc Gerecht
April 30, 2012 -- Since we don't know what Saeed Jalili, Iran's chief
nuclear negotiator, said at the recent confab in Istanbul, we can't be sure
that Israeli prime minister Bibi Netanyahu was right to dismiss the
powwow as a "freebie" for Tehran. Also, the Islamic Republic is a
theocracy: The most senior officials need to report face-to-face to their
master. Jalili, an ill-tempered, narrow-minded, one-legged veteran of the
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Iran-Iraq war, lost face after a disastrous meeting in Geneva in October
2009, when he tentatively agreed to a nuclear-fuel swap, only to see the
supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, bat the deal down from Tehran. So no
matter how well rehearsed, Jalili would need time for his boss to digest
what was demanded and offered. In any case, as long as the Iranians were
polite, we were going to have two meetings. And so there is another get-
together scheduled for May 23 in Baghdad.
The odds are high, however, that the next session will lead to no diplomatic
yellow-brick road. Round two could be a success, and lead to a round
three, if Khamenei agreed to do five things: (1) Stop all uranium
enrichment to 20 percent purity, which is near bomb-grade; (2) ship abroad
the entire stockpile of 20 percent enriched uranium; (3) close the Fordow
enrichment facility, which is buried under a mountain near the clerical city
of Qom; (4) allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency
immediate and unfettered access to any suspected nuclear site; and (5)
permit the IAEA to install devices on centrifuges for monitoring uranium-
enrichment levels. Khamenei is, to say the least, unlikely to agree to this.
It's worth stressing that it is a serious mistake to allow Khamenei and his
Revolutionary Guards, who oversee terrorist operations and the nuclear
program, any domestic enrichment capacity. This was the position of the
Obama administration and our Western European allies. Now that
consensus has apparently collapsed because Iranian agreement seems
impossible. Khamenei's determination to keep advancing uranium
enrichment despite increasingly severe sanctions has paid off. Tehran has
enough low-grade, 3.5 percent enriched uranium stockpiled to produce at
least one, soon two, nuclear weapons. It also has a 163-pound stockpile of
20 percent enriched uranium. As Oli Heinonen, the former deputy director
general of the IAEA, has pointed out, mastering 3.5 percent enrichment is
70 percent of the way to mastering the fuel cycle for an atomic weapon.
Twenty percent enrichment is 90 percent of the process.
As of February, Iranian centrifuges were producing 256 pounds per month
of 3.5 percent enriched uranium and 15 pounds per month of 20 percent
enriched uranium (the Fordow facility accounted for 9.5 pounds of this
total). The Iranian regime had 8,800 centrifuges spinning at Natanz and
696 at Fordow. Once the Islamic Republic can produce 44 pounds of
highly enriched uranium per month, which is not that far off given the
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increasing rate of production, the supreme leader and his guards can have a
nuclear weapon in their hands in as little as 43 days, provided Iran's
nuclear scientists have mastered the manufacture of a nuclear trigger
(technically much less difficult than enrichment). Per the IAEA's most
recent report, "information indicates that Iran has carried out activities
relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device." In other words,
Khamenei will win his race for a nuclear weapon unless something
dramatic intervenes to stop him.
The best that can be hoped from another round of negotiations with Tehran
is that Khamenei is hooked into a process that enfeebles him. The cleric
has consistently avoided any meaningful embrace of the negotiating
process because he sees it as dangerous, a slippery slope where the
Americans and Europeans dictate limitations on his nuclear program.
Many American critics of negotiations have seen this process as the
reverse, a slippery slope that has Western diplomacy enabling the Islamic
Republic's nuclear ambitions. Khamenei may have the stronger argument.
But he shows no sign of yielding to pressure.
There is certainly a risk that continuing these negotiations puts Israeli
prime minister Bibi Netanyahu and defense minister Ehud Barak into a real
pickle, since it's more difficult for the Israelis to make the case for
bombing Iran's nuclear sites while the negotiations are going on.
Nonetheless, the Israelis need to decide whether a preventive attack on the
Islamic Republic can work. Their internal deliberations should not be
constrained by a false promise of a diplomatic solution. Moving forward
with negotiations now is actually more likely to free the Israelis to act in
the summer, if they choose to, than to entrap them.
Americans, too, need to have an honest debate about whether they are
willing to permit Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guards—the principal
state sponsors of terrorism in the Middle East, whom the Obama
administration has increasingly nailed for their operational relationship
with al Qaeda—to develop atomic weapons. It would be healthy for
Democrats and Republicans to debate the Iranian conundrum, which is not
going to happen as long as sanctions-backed diplomacy seems viable. We
are fortunate that the nuclear timeline overlaps well with the 2012
presidential campaign: It's the ideal moment for a ripping discussion about
probably the most momentous foreign-policy question before us.
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The above five requirements—nearly identical to the reported minimum
requirements of the White House—ought to clarify where we are on May
23. These conditions will be extremely difficult for Khamenei to accept
because they are so humbling. Shuttering the Fordow facility, which Iran's
state-controlled press has reported on with pride, would be gut-wrenching
for the supreme leader. It's likely that Khamenei wants to build more
Fordow-like facilities—bomb-resistant sites that signal spiritual resistance
to the West. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's boast that Iran intends to
open 10 more enrichment facilities no doubt was hyperbolic, but the
sentiments clearly reflect Khamenei's disposition. Closing Fordow would
offend the supreme leader's identity as the anti-American Islamic paladin.
Even more galling and dangerous, U.N. inspectors under this agreement
would have the right to fan out across the country hunting for suspicious
nuclear activity. The IAEA's Additional Protocols, to which Khamenei
would have to assent, are intrusive and would allow inspectors access to
Iranian military and Revolutionary Guard bases. No doubt, the supreme
leader and his guards could still cheat (they have lied about the nuclear
program from the beginning). Iran is a big country. Satellites and other
technical means of observation can only do so much. The regime is surely
working clandestinely to perfect more advanced centrifuges that could be
hidden in smaller buildings and underground facilities.
Nevertheless, the odds are decent that these inspectors would catch the
regime in its big lie about the "peaceful" intent of the program. Nuclear
experts have some idea where the Iranians have been militarizing their
nuclear "research." Even so, an astonishing number of intelligent people in
America and Europe appear to believe that Khamenei's fatwa about the
"sinfulness" of nuclear weapons is significant, that it isn't just ketman,
deception deployed against a stronger enemy. Exposing Khamenei's
flagrant mendacity, for both Iranians and foreigners, is not without value
and would again refocus the discussion on the real question: Is it
acceptable for Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guards to have nuclear
weapons?
But what if the Iranians accept all of the demands? Could we still be
staring at an Iranian nuke, just delivered at a slower pace? It's possible. If
Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, the former major-domo of Iranian clerical
politics and the true father of the Islamic Republic's nuclear-weapons
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program, were still in charge, we'd likely be enmeshed in the rope-a-dope
tactics that he successfully used against the trade-happy Europeans in the
1990s. Rafsanjani has always advocated the go-slow nuclear approach. He
has even broached the idea of direct talks with Washington. But we're not
confronting Rafsanjani, who was purged after the crackdown on the Green
Movement in 2009. Moving forward with one more round of negotiations
now is much more likely to expose the supreme leader's intransigence than
entangle America (and Israel) in a pointless, lengthy diplomatic dance.
Senior officials in the Obama administration probably have few illusions
about Iranian mendacity. The last three years have been an education:
Candidate Obama and lots of Democrats believed that President Obama
could transform American-Iranian relations. But Ali Khamenei has tried
hard to show that George W. Bush was not the problem. Although it's
dangerous to suggest that diplomacy with the Islamic Republic has just
about run its course (for die-hard diplomats, the process never ends), it's
going to be challenging for the administration to pretend that sanctions-
backed diplomacy can work given the increasing enrichment at Natanz and
Fordow. If the Israelis decide to strike, the president will be hard pressed
not to back them, as he promised to do in his speech to the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee. The collapse of the negotiating process in May
most likely will not provoke the White House to do anything more
bellicose, but it will at least get us talking seriously, at last, about the nature
of the Iranian regime and how best to deal with it—and how to help Israel
deal with it, if Israel feels it must act. That would be an enormous step
forward.
Reuel Marc Gerecht is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of
Democracies, focusing primarily on the Middle East, Islamic militancy,
counterterrorism, and intelligence. Mr. Gerecht served as a case officer at
the CIA, primarily working on Middle Eastern targets.
The Washington Post
Fears of extremism taking hold in Syria as
violence continues
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Liz Sly
April 23 -- BEIRUT — As Syria's revolution drags into its second year
amid few signs that a U.N.-mandated cease-fire plan will end the violence,
evidence is mounting that Islamist extremists are seeking to commandeer
what began as a non-ideological uprising aimed at securing greater
political freedom.
Activists and rebel soldiers based inside Syria say a small but growing
number of Islamist radicals affiliated with global jihadi movements have
been arriving in opposition strongholds in recent weeks and attempting to
rally support among disaffected residents.
Western diplomats say they have tracked a steady trickle of jihadists
flowing into Syria from Iraq, and Jordan's government last week detained
at least four alleged Jordanian militants accused of trying to sneak into
Syria to join the revolutionaries.
A previously unknown group calling itself the al-Nusra Front has asserted
responsibility for bombings in the cities of Damascus and Aleppo using
language and imagery reminiscent of the statements and videos put out by
al-Qaeda-affiliated organizations in Iraq, although no evidence of the
group's existence has surfaced other than the videos and statements it has
posted on the Internet.
Syrian activists and Western officials say the militants appear to be making
little headway in recruiting supporters within the ranks of the still largely
secular protest movement, whose unifying goal is the ouster of the regime
led by President Bashar al-Assad.
But if the United Nations' peace plan fails to end the government's bloody
crackdown and promises of Western and Arab help for the rebel Free
Syrian Army do not materialize, activists and analysts say, there is a real
risk that frustrated members of the opposition will be driven toward
extremism, adding a dangerous dimension to a revolt that is threatening to
destabilize a wide arc of territory across the Middle East.
"The world doing nothing opens the door for jihadis," said Lt. Abdullah al-
Awdi, a Free Syrian Army commander who defected from the regular army
in the summer and was interviewed during a visit he made to Turkey. He
says that he has rebuffed several offers of help from militant groups in the
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form of arms and money and that he fears the extremists' influence will
grow.
"This is not a reason for the international community to be silent about
Syria. It should be a reason for them to do something," Awdi said.
Flow of jihadis reported
U.S. officials and Western diplomats in the region, who spoke on the
condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, say they
have seen several indications that al-Qaeda-like groups are trying to inject
themselves into the Syrian revolution, although they stress that the Islamist
radicals' impact has been limited. Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri
called on "mujaheddin" to head to Syria in support of the rebels earlier this
year, and Western diplomats are convinced that operatives affiliated with
al-Qaeda carried out a string of bombings in Damascus and Aleppo
between December and March.
The diplomats say dozens of jihadis have been detected crossing the border
from Iraq into Syria, some of them Syrians who had previously
volunteered to fight in Iraq and others Iraqi. There may also be other
foreign nationals among them, reversing the journey they took into Iraq
years ago when jihadis flowed across the border to fight the now-departed
Americans.
The Syrian government facilitated the flow of foreign fighters into Iraq for
many years, and there are widespread suspicions that it may be covertly
reactivating some of those networks to discredit the revolutionaries, deter
international support for the opposition and create conditions under which
the harsh crackdown by authorities will appear justified.
The regime portrayed the uprising as the work of radical Islamists in its
earliest days, and the reports that extremists are surfacing in Syria only
play into the official narrative, said Salman Shaikh, director of the
Brookings Doha Center in Qatar.
"This drip, drip, drip of extremists across the border . . . there are signs the
regime is aiding and abetting it," Shaikh said. "And it will become a self-
fulfilling prophecy."
It is also plausible that these groups, adherents of a radicalized form of
Sunni Islam, have turned against their former benefactors and are making
their way back to Syria motivated by religious and sectarian zeal. Although
many Syrian opposition activists insist that their revolution is not sectarian,
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a majority of Syrians are Sunnis, while Assad, along with most leading
figures in the regime and in the security forces, belongs to the Shiite-
affiliated Alawite minority, lending a sectarian dimension to the populist
revolt.
Syrian activists and rebels insist that the extremists are not welcome in
communities that have long prided themselves on their tolerance of the
religious minorities in their midst, including Christians, Alawites, Druze,
Kurds and Ismaili Shiites.
A rebel leader in northern Syria who asked to be identified by his nom de
guerre, Abu Mustafa, described how he and his men drove out a group of
about 15 radicals, all of them Syrian but none of them local, who arrived in
a northern village in January. Led by a commander who identified himself
as Abu Sulaiman, the group tried to recruit supporters for an assault on the
nearby town of Jisr al-Shughour.
Abu Sulaiman "had money, he had weapons, and he sent a guy to negotiate
with me, but I refused," Abu Mustafa recalled in an interview in Turkey.
"We asked him to leave, but he didn't, so we attacked him. We killed two
of them, and one of our men was injured. Then he left, but I don't know
where he went."
"The good thing is that Syrians are against giving our country to radicals,"
Abu Mustafa added. "But these groups have supporters who are very rich,
and if our revolution continues like this, without hope and without result,
they will gain influence on the ground."
A largely secular revolt
There is a distinction between the naturally conservative religiosity of
Syrians who come from traditional communities and the radicalism of
those associated with the global jihadi movement, said Joseph Holliday,
who is researching the Free Syrian Army at the Institute for the Study of
War in Washington and believes extremists are a small minority.
"While there are elements [in the opposition] that are very conservative,
they are not the driving force," he said. "There is definitely an argument to
be made that this will increase over time, because insurgencies often
become more extremist over time, but for now the driving force behind this
revolution is secular."
Adherents of the strict Salafi school of Islam have emerged in many Syrian
communities and are playing a role in the opposition, but they, too, arc to
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be distinguished from the jihadis, said Yezid Sayigh of the Carnegie
Middle East Center in Beirut.
"People who are local and pious and moving in an Islamist direction and
are taking up guns don't have the same organization and are not necessarily
the same thing as jihadists, who are not necessarily al-Qaeda," he said.
"There's a range of different directions and trends."
Many activists fear, however, that the influence of the extremists is
growing as Syrian rebels who have for months appealed in vain for
Western military intervention look for help elsewhere.
"Of course it is growing, because no one is doing anything to stop it," said
a Syrian activist who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he fears
retribution from some of the radicals he has encountered while attempting
to organize the opposition in many northern communities.
"They have rules," he said. "They say: If we give you money, you have to
obey our orders and accept our leadership. Some of my friends drink
alcohol, and they aren't like this. But when they find no other way to cover
their expenses, they join these groups and then they follow them."
Asharq Al-Awsat
interview: The PLO's Ahmad Quray
Kifah Zaboun
22 April 2012 -- Ahmad Quray, member of the PLO Executive Committee
and former chief negotiator, describes the Palestinian mentality as
experimental, and says that the mechanism that the Palestinians have tried
for many years at the negotiations has failed, and he calls for changing it
by including Arab and international sides in negotiating the most
important dossiers, such as Jerusalem, the refugees, and security.
The following is the full text of the interview:
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[Asharq Al-Awsat] I would like to start with the two-state solution, which
you said this week is dead. Can it be resurrected?
[Quray] I have said that the two-state solution has been exposed to lethal
blows. I am convinced that Israel talks about the two-state project, while it
is carrying out its assassination. There can never be a Palestinian State
without Jerusalem. If the state project is a living body, then Jerusalem is its
head, and if the head is severed, the body cannot live.
Secondly, pay attention to the settlement blocs. Everybody ought to know
where their borders are. I will start from the north, Ariel Settlement (near
Nabulus) extends for 24 km from west to east into the belly of the West
Bank, and they will add to it Shilo Settlement, which will expand by some
500 housing units; all of it will be transformed into a single bloc that will
reach the Jordan River Ghawr, and splits the West Bank. In the middle
there is Givat Zeev, which puts an end to the connectivity of Ramallah, and
extends to South Jerusalem and to the west until Bayt Sira, and then Maale
Adumim is added to it in the east, and hence it will reach Al-Khan al-
Ahmar (on the road to Jericho). This is without even mentioning the "El
plan," which if built would seal Jerusalem from the east, and there would
be no scope for visiting it except from the west, or by permission from the
Israeli controller. As for the Jerusalem settlements, there is no need to talk
about them.
I do not believe that it is possible to deal with such blocs in the project of a
solution for a Palestinian State. Israel has built the wall, and drawn up the
settlement blocs, and I am afraid that it might say: This is your state until
God changes the situation. This will be the end of it, without Jerusalem,
without refugees, and with the Jordan River Ghawr staying as a security
space.
We want the two-state solution. However, if Israel is not committed to the
two-state solution on the basis of international legitimacy, international
law, and the authority related to the peace process, the talk about the two-
state solution will become mere intellectual exercise, and will not lead to
any results.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] What do you think is a satisfactory solution?
[Quray] A two-state solution that is based on a Palestinian State on the
lines of 4 June 1967 with exchanges in borders equivalent in value and
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similar to each other, but not in the settlements.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Is what the Israelis doing today going to be fate?
[Quray] I do not say that what the occupation plans is going to be fate, but
what the occupation plans if the situation stays as it is, the occupation will
have the opportunity to impose on the ground. The Palestinian internal
state is not healthy, and the Arab state is not healthy, as it has become
neutral. I do not want a statement from the Arab summit, I want real Arab
participation. This is Palestine, and it is the center of the region that
separates the octopus from the Arab world. The Palestinian cause needs a
different Arab stance. What are they offering to Jerusalem? What the Arabs
offer is nothing worth mentioning. [Jerusalem Mayor] Nir Barkat
(chairman of the Jerusalem Jewish Municipal Council) has a budget bigger
than all the Arab countries offer.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But they have allocated large funds to Jerusalem, the
last of which at the Baghdad summit. Have these funds arrived?
[Quray] No, no they have not. None of the countries has paid, except Saudi
Arabia.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Then, in the light of this diagnosis, what is the
necessary next step at the Palestinian level?
[Quray] In order to be objective, we should know clearly the magnitude of
our strength, and our stance now. The Palestinian stance to some extent is
not bad. Second, we need an Arab stance. If the Arab stance is not serious
about making the Palestinian cause one of its priorities, this will be a point
of weakness. Unfortunately, we no longer are one of the priorities of the
Arab stance, neither are we one of the priorities of the international stance.
The United States is turning toward East Asia; this is not a secret; Hillary
Clinton wrote about that. There is a transformation that might create a
vacuum.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] You have said that the Palestinian stance toward the
negotiations is not bad. Are you really satisfied with it?
[Quray] The Palestinian stance still is experimenting, and the policy of
experimenting sometimes leads to mistakes. I am not against the
negotiations, but the negotiations with the mechanisms to which we are
used no longer lead to any results, and will not lead to any result. The
mechanism of the bilateral meetings that are published in the newspapers
before they start is no longer beneficial; this is first.
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Second, there are issues that the Palestinian side cannot decide alone. Let
me give you an example; the issue of the refugees, you cannot decide this
issue without Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt. These are the rights of
citizens, the rights of peoples, and the right of the host country. Therefore,
you need these sides. Also some international sides ought to be informed
step by step as we proceed.
This also applies to the issue of Jerusalem in which we need indirect
participation by the Arab and Muslim countries.
The same applies to security. Israel talks everyday about security, and has
transformed it into a condition for negotiations. There ought to be an
understanding of the issue of security at the regional level.
I do not call for partnership at the negotiations table, but there has to be
participation and a change of mechanism.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But you are talking about the most important
sovereignty issues in the negotiations?
[Quray] Yes, (the decision) is ours, but we cannot contract it on our own.
We want Arab, regional, and international sides to be present with us. We
ought to depart from the logic of bilateral negotiations. This is no longer
beneficial, and for this reason these bilateral negotiations one time are
transformed into overview negotiations, and another time are exploratory
negotiations. If there are negotiations, let them be through the new
mechanisms.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Had you been still the chairman of the negotiating team
or had you had the power to decide, how would you act now?
[Quray] I am not saying that our stance is correct. The condition of halting
the settlement activities is right and correct. However, it is important to say
that I will not under any circumstances recognize any settlement bloc that
has been built on the 1967 territories, and I will never accept it. Syria has
not said stop the settlement activities, but it said no settlements after the
agreement. Egypt did not say, for instance, stop the building activities in
Yamit (settlement in Sinai), but when the situation was resolved the
settlement was demolished. In Gaza, have they [the Israelis] not left it?
Therefore, our stance ought to be clear, but without making it understood
that the required amendments are in exchange for the settlements.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But the Israelis say that you have agreed that the
settlements can stay in exchange for land?
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[Quray] The PA has not agreed to this not even once.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Have they not agreed even that principal settlements
can stay?
[Quray] No, no, in Camp David we said there can be amendments to the
borders. Let me be frank, neither Abu-Ammar (Yasser Arafat), nor Abu-
Mazin (Mahmud Abbas) agreed that settlements could stay.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Then, you are in favor of announcing a categorical
stance toward the settlements and going to the negotiations?
[Quray] Of course, if there are clear mechanisms I am not against the
negotiations.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But is this not a new experiment?
[Quray] No, no, the international community will be present, the
International Quartet and Arab and regional sides, and also there will be a
time limit.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But rather than doing this, the PA has addressed a letter
to Israeli Prime Minister Binjamin Netanyahu. Have you seen it?
[Quray] Not at all, I heard about it the same as you have.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Are you in favor of sending it?
[Quray] God willing, it will lead to a result. Our stance is known, and
Netanyahu's stance has become known.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Netanyahu has said that he will reply with a letter. In
your opinion, will this lead to negotiations through letters?
[Quray] I do not know how that will be. However, he answered in advance
saying no to the return of the refugees, no to Jerusalem, and that the
settlement blocs will stay. Therefore, he has answered.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you mean that the step is futile?
[Quray] God willing, it will be useful.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you have other options that could have been
activated rather than, for instance, the letter?
[Quray] Of course we have options. We have a cause and we do not lack
options.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] What are the options that you consider that they have
not been used?
[Quray] Popular resistance, for instance, is an important option.
Consolidating the Palestinian presence, providing its requirements, and
strengthening it, is also an important option. Also the option of a state for
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two peoples, a single democratic state is also an option. Our options exist
as long as our national rights are not fulfilled.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] You talk about the one-state solution; do you consider it
possible to apply?
[Quray] This has been a Fatah project since 1967, a secular democratic
state in which the Muslim, the Christian, and the Jew coexist. This
originally is a Fatah option, but it was amended in 1974 when it started to
talk about the establishment of a state on any part from which the
occupation withdraws, and hence the National Council adopted its
resolution in 1988 to establish a Palestinian St ate. Later on, the
negotiations started on the basis of the National Council resolution.
However, I say if this vision is not achieved, what can we do? We can
activate our other options, including the one-state option. We - this
generation - might not be able to fulfil the aspirations of the people, but we
should not squander them. The options ought to remain open to the people.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But these options have been proposed by the PA every
now and then, which has made them lose their seriousness?
[Quray] They should not be brandished for the sake of threatening; these
are strategic options of a people and a cause.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you agree with those who say that the two-state
solution is dead, and the option now is the one-state solution?
[Quray] No, I say that Israel is killing the two-state solution, and I look up
to the international community to tell Israel to stop, and also to say that the
requirements of the two-state solution are the following.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] And then we start waiting again?
[Quray] Our issue is not a picnic; it is an issue of a people, a homeland,
and international and regional equations.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Some people consider that there is the option of
dissolving the PA rather than all this?
[Quray] No, this is as if we are in the middle of a race an then we shoot
ourselves in the foot. The PA is an achievement, and one of the signposts of
the Palestinian national struggle. It was not achieved free of charge; it was
achieved through long struggle and a great uprising. This is a temporary
transitional authority for a transitional stage during which the Palestinians
hold the reins of their affairs until the occupation ends. It is forbidden that
a Palestinian should say that he wants to dissolve the PA; this is despite the
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fact that Israel indeed has taken away much of the powers of the PA when
it returned to Ramallah and put Arafat under siege; nevertheless we ought
to preserve the PA.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] There are those who call for thinking about the job of
the PA and its relationship with Israel, and redrafting all this?
[Quray] I do not negotiate over the PA rather than negotiating over the
permanent solution. For instance, some people say that the economic
agreement is unfair; this is true, but I do not negotiate over the economic
agreement. I do not want to improve the conditions of the transitional
solution; this is not what we want. We want an agreement over the
permanent solution; this is what will give us complete sovereignty.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] The PA has tried to obtain sovereignty through going to
the United Nations. In your opinion, was this step correct?
[Quray] This is a correct, good, and required step.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Does it contradict the negotiations?
[Quray] No, no, this is our right. I am in favor of any step that brings us
closer to our right.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Are you also in favor of going back again to the United
Nations?
[Quray] I believe that obtaining the status of non-member state is an
important achievement. This will enable us to participate in many
organizations and bodies along the way to the UN Security Council.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But it has been raised that a non-member state might
cancel the legitimate representation of the PLO?
[Quray] A non-member state means that the PLO exists as a sole legitimate
representative until the independent state is established.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Some people link the failure of the UN Security
Council step and the divisions. Do you think that there is a link?
[Quray] The divisions are one of the factors of the erosion of the
Palestinian status. This is a small country, and we have a cause, and we are
under occupation. This situation should not continue; cohesion must be
restored to the people. These divisions most certainly weaken us in front of
Israel, and in front of the world. The internal situation cannot continue like
this, and I fear that the divisions could turn into a fait accompli with which
everybody deals. The two sides, wittingly or unwittingly, are dividing the
country; there are many examples on this that arouse concern. The
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divisions are a national issue that ought to end.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Then, what do you think is the way out after all the
previous agreements have failed?
[Quray] I do not believe that the Doha agreement has failed. There is a
possibility. We should not allow the divisions to remain. I went to China
and Vietnam earlier, and they were saying to us: Comrades, make it your
priority to consolidate your national unity, because it is the guarantee of
your victory.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] You are a member of the PLO; are you satisfied with
the work, role, and status of the PLO?
[Quray] I wish the work of the PLO to be institutionalized, and that the
resolutions are adopted through a great deal of serious consultations,
because this is a difficult stage. The PLO needs activation in all its
departments, which need care, attention, and support. The PLO, with its
departments, committee, two councils, and embassies ought to enjoy real
care and support.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] The PLO sometimes is accused of being absent, or of
not participating seriously in decision making?
[Quray] I said that it needs activation (Quray smiles).
[Asharq Al-Awsat] You were a close friend of Arafat, and he always said
that he could see a light at the end of the tunnel. Do you still see it?
[Quray] As long as our people are standing fast and firmly on their land,
we will continue to see light at the end of the tunnel.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] As we are talking about Arafat, do you miss him today?
[Quray] Yes, of course, always.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you miss him on a personal or a national level?
[Quray] I miss him on both levels. On the national level, he was a leader
and had special charisma, and he was always present. On the personal level
he was loyal and committed to the cadres, and the people.
Hiirriyet Daily News
Turkey blocks Israel from NATO summit
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Serkan Demirta§
April 23 2012 -- Turkey has blocked the participation of Israel in a key
NATO summit that will take place in Chicago on May 20 and 21, despite
calls from influential allies including the United States, Western diplomatic
have sources told the fliirriyet Daily News. The veto was conveyed to the
NATO bodies by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu during the
Alliance's meeting last week in Brussels.
"There will be no Israeli presence at the NATO meeting unless they issue a
formal apology and pay compensation for the Turkish citizens their
commandos killed in international waters" a senior Turkish official told the
Daily News.
"There are demands from us for the removal of our veto, but this is out of
question."
"Those countries who wish to see normalization in ties between Turkey
and Israel should advise Israel to apologize and to compensate the killing
of Turks in international waters," the official said.
Turkey has vetoed a number of Israeli attempts to deepen its partnership
with the alliance - such as opening an office at the NATO headquarters and
participating in the activities of the Mediterranean Dialogue group - on the
grounds that it should first bear the consequences of its unlawful action
against Turkish citizens. This reflects the two-year old strife between
Turkey and Israel, which is a result of the Mavi Marmara incident that
claimed the lives of eight Turkish and one Turkish-American citizen. The
level of diplomatic relations between the two has been reduced to the level
of "second secretary" since then.
Turkey's blockage against Israel was brought to the table during the NATO
foreign ministers' meeting in Brussels on April 18, the Daily News learnt.
Some ministers of the allied countries including the United States, France
and Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen indirectly criticized Turkey
for bringing its bilateral problems with Israel to the NATO platform. Some
ministers went so far as to vow to veto the participation of Egypt,
Mauritania, Algeria, Morocco and other partner countries in the activities
of the Mediterranean Dialogue if Turkey continues to do so against Israel,
something they called "a violation of NATO's values."
Criticism from Davutoglu
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In response to such statements, Davutoglu harshly criticized his
counterparts sitting around the same large table. "You are talking about
being partners and partnership values. But partners, first of everything,
should act like partners, so that we'll treat them accordingly," was the main
message Davutoglu delivered to his NATO colleagues. He elaborated:
- The army of a country which you call a partner killed our citizens upon a
political order given by its administration. We do not call this kind of
country a partner.
- Turkey evacuated from Israel not only Turks but citizens from many
countries, after they were detained by Israeli forces due to Mavi Marmara
incident. It also evacuated citizens of all nationalities from Libya and Syria
without making distinction. Our expectation from all allied countries is to
pay the same respect to our citizens as we do to yours.
- I assure you that Turkey will be the first country acting to protect the
citizens of NATO countries in a similar incident. We believe in the notion
of solidarity in NATO much more than the discrimination some of you
have expressed.
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