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From: Richard Kahn
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler <1
, Tyler Shean
Subject: Re: Next
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 21:17:50 +0000
may i please have the list of who is selling what?
if you subtracted value based on the contingencies then you already have an idea, however i will ask if that
moves this along..
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Sep 6, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Neale Attenborough
> wrote:
I do not agree to your premise on the face of it because we are already starting at a substantially discounted valuation in
light of these contingent liabilities already. This is why I want them detailed precisely.
I am sure you or your client (who would know them much better than we do) can articulate what they are specifically.
From: Richard Kahn [mailto:
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 4:12 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler; Tyler Shean
Subject: Re: Next
neale,
frankly, I don't have them, however I would have thought you did... lets try to see if there is a deal and then we
all can agree on what the contingencies are...
you will certainly agree that if they pertain to the period of your ownership you will be responsible for your
share...and actions relating to liabilities after closing is another story
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
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New York, NY 10022
On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Neale Attenborough
> wrote:
What are the specific actions you refer to as Paris, Milan and New York, with case numbers and a summary of the
cases.
From: Richard Kahn fmailto:
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:47 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler; Tyler Shean
Subject: Re: Next
contigent liabilities are paris, milan, and the new york lawsuit that is looking to form a class...
this is obviously separate and apart from all actions that might be brought that would be relevant to the time
of your ownership.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Neale Attenborough
> wrote:
We have a term sheet ready and will forward once we receive the list of contingent liabilities you would like
us to consider, as we agreed on our last call.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Richard Kahn <
wrote:
When can I expect your term sheet with details that we discussed explaining exactly what entity will be
selling what...
I would assume your offer of 8 million cash and 1 million a year for three years would allow for the
litigation expense and liability (if any) to come out of the future payments... so probably 5 years
needed...
Please advise
Thank you
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Neale Attenborough <=111===>
wrote:
As we agreed yesterday:
We will lay our a term sheet which includes the deal I spoke of
yesterday. It will include all the entities that will be involved and
the concept of some cash paid over time.
You will detail exactly which potential liabilities you speak of
below you would like us to consider.
We can then see fit is possible to hammer out a deal.
Thanks.
On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
To move this along I would suggest the following: a rough
detailed draft of a term sheet with seller companies detailed.
how many entities? an amount of cash left back and an
amount of dollars also spread over a number of years. default
suggestions and
your ideas on how to deal with liablity.
ie ny class action waiting to be certified. . others like paris
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etc. thank you.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Aug 30, 2017, at 7:16 AM, Richard Kahn
<
> wrote:
I would add that you are selling an offshore vehicle formed
under an agreement that puzzles me.
The whole co is not
for sale and if so we might argue along some similar but less
exagerrated lines
multiples of large biz from years ago.
I
guess if you find the dramatically too low, you might offer to
buy out Faith and Joel , using your formulas. with a
premium for control.
Jeffrey is set to join the call and has
authority to make the decision to accept or reject.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone 212-971-1306
On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Richard Kahn
<
> wrote:
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i already pointed out currency exchange, board fees etc. as
a bad number in your calculations. sorry....the other
transactions that we know very well are far from relevant. . if
faith and joel walk there is NO business which is hardly the
same idea as IMG where multi divisions exist and
succession is planned. I do not know what cash was on
the balance sheet when you bought it.
The open gate
transaction to summarize was a stepping into your shoes
for only 6 million or roughly the same as the current offer.
taking out cash 14 of the 15 mil which has not come out.
and even on your calculation of 8 cash would mean 3.2 to
you back then... and then leveraging the biz. / the liability to
the buyer was no where near that to golden gate. sorry. . .
We can go back and forth on comps and can show mom and
pop at 1 to 3 times ebitda. . so lets try to short circuit a
tiresome uncessary excercise, as i see it the current bid
offer is 5 bid and approx 9 .2 offer.
open gates 6 + 3.2
from 2 years ago with more growth potential and lower cash
out. multiples from before digital photos and amazon.
sorry
I am suprised that you would inflate current Ebitda,
pull multiples from many years ago to biz that are
tangential. leave out liabilites even of lawsuits that you know
about, and then pick a cash number to subtract for
enterprise value. If I have misunderstood and you are not
really sellers then I will not be insulted if you decide to
cancel our call.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Neale Attenborough
> wrote:
Richard,
Not funny at all, just factual.
I think if we are to ultimately agree on value it will be important we agree on a set of facts:
1.
TTM EBITDA is $6.7Million. If you disagree, please let us know precisely what items you disagree
with in the number and we can discuss.
2.
The current cash balance for the company is $13.1 Million.
3.
The past three comparable transactions for companies in this market average an enterprise value
at —10x multiple of EBITDA
a.
Wilhelmina: 7x (average meaningful trading multiple since 2010)
b. Creative Artists Agency: 10x (TPG acquisition, 2014)
c.
IMG: 13x (WME acquisition, 2013)
4.
We invested $18 million for a 42% stake in the business, implying an enterprise value of $42.9
million.
5.
We received a bona fide offer from OpenGate Capital which would have resulted in $18 million in
proceeds for us (and in fact a $17 million distribution to Faith and Joel), and while they were, as
you point out, contemplating leverage in the <3x EBITDA range, it is in fact a relevant data point
and an independent look at value.
6.
One other note that is relevant to us, is that when Elite Models in Europe contacted us with an
interest in buying the company, Faith told me to relay to them that they would not contemplate
selling to Elite for less than $100 million (which at the time was a +10x synergy-adjusted EBITDA
value). Ultimately they walked based on that value requirement.
I would hope you agree that the following is a commonly agreed upon formula for value:
a.
Enterprise value = EBITDA x Market Multiple
b. Equity Value = Enterprise Value + net cash (or— net debt).
One matter of judgment is what of the cash balance is "excess cash". Joel has said he believes all the cash
is due to the models. The facts show that in the ordinary course of business the collection of receivables
offsets the payables and in the past three years, the cash balance has only fluctuated at most by $3 million,
meaning anywhere from $8-10 million on the balance sheet should be considered to be "excess cash", not
needed for day-to-day operations. I have attached both a three year cash balance tracker and a current
balance sheet for your review.
Using the above, a very modest calculation of value would be $6.7 million of EBITDA x 5 multiple (a 50%
discount to the market) or an enterprise value of $33.5 million and if we took a conservative view of what
excess cash is at the moment of $8 million, would result in a total equity value of $41.5 million. Our 42%
would equate to $17.4 million of proceeds to us. That is at a multiple that has been deeply discounted to
the market comps that were actually paid for companies in the same business.
We are, however, willing to take much less than this very discounted value calculation, as I have mentioned
to you before. However, your proposal of $5 million of proceeds to us represents an equity value of $11.9
million ($5/.42), an enterprise value of $3.9 million ($11.9 million - $8 million of excess cash) or an EBITDA
multiple of 0.58x ($6.7 x 0.58 = $3.9 enterprise value), a level that is far too low for us to accept.
I look forward to our discussion tomorrow morning.
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Neale
From: Richard Kahn fmailto:
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 11:51 AM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Re: Next
Pretty funny Neale...
Even the silly open gate proposal was in essence stepping into your shoes for only 6 million cash.
BACK THEN !!
Then proposing to distribute what they estimated to be almost the full total (14 of the 15 million)
of cash on the balance sheet. Chris i must point out that is more than it totals today. Then having
Joel, Faith, etc leverage themselves up by borrowing at 7 percent against the entire co in order to
make a further distribution of an additional 15 million which on paper creates a highly inflated
enterprise value. He only proposed 6 million cash infusion which is around the same amount that
you are currently being offered. They valued faith and joels ongoing equity (that they proposed
they "keep in") silly, at 8mm which is roughly the same as we suggested. Financial engineering
done well is like lipstick.. however not done well is also like lipstick. :) This is a personal
service business, no more no less and suggesting that they leverage themselves up so you that they
can pay themselves a higher salary fails the HBS first year class that i am aware you have taken.
Regarding the 18 million, we have distributions from Next directly to the former shareholders of
the claxon offshore entity of approx 3. Regarding the receivables you can ask millie... sorry
PS
Faith and joel will have to borrow the money to buy you out at 5.. can be done, but not so
easy. they have never taken out real money from the company in any form: salary etc.... hence
they have little net worth and current lenders are not that comfortable with the potential
liabilities....
On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Neale Attenborough <
I look forward to our conversation.
> wrote:
For the record, we did actually pay $18MM for 42% of this business in 2008. At the time that
represented an -8x multiple of EBITDA. That is not a fictitious number. In addition we did receive a bid
for about the same amount from Open Gate Capital, a reputable private equity firm. I do not understand
why you say that ii is "hardly legitimate". While I did say we didn't expect to receive what we paid, I did
not say it was immaterial.
I don't follow most of what you say below and look forward to hearing your clarification. However, can
you please clarify one statement specifically? What do you mean when you say the current receivables
have not be reviewed in years?
Thanks,
Neale
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From: Richard Kahn [mailto:
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:45 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Next
confirmed thank you
We have reviewed your statements that you sent to us along with the K-1's and some financials.
Frankly, some of the numbers are inaccurate as a result of millie. Your annual financial
statements were reviewed but not audited - shame on all of you... Your calculation of Ebitda
includes things like adding back foreign exchange costs? board fees etc. That is not the way we
look at what is unfortunately for all merely a personal service business.
Faith and Joel make up the business, nothing more. We calculate the Ebidta, which we think is
an odd way of measuring value of a personal service biz with lots of competition and small
growth opportuinties if any. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and ignoring how much you
paid or if some of that money was repaid directly to the former owners of Clayton and not truly
understanding what you described as a fixed tax payment per quarter (ie based on what I think
looking back over the past three years) ebitda looks like 4-5 million. We have bought many
small biz and usually pay mom and pops for 1- 3 times ebita or more usually 4 times net
income. We are finding it difficult to get to more than a 15 million total value for Next ( not
including liabilities). The 18 million dollar bid that you mentioned Faith said was hardly
legitimate. I think further review of the accounting tax etc. is probably a waste of all our time.
As you rightly said, what you initially paid is somewhat if not totatly immaterial to todays value.
You have not factored in the liabilities, both reputationally and fiscal yet. I think the 5 million
cash offer or 6m over time is fair. I look forward to our conversation on tuesday. As another
note, the current receivables have not been reviewed for years...
Rich
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