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I mean, I’m sorry, he is circumcised, my bad. He’s circumcised, a hundred and ten percent sure. A matter of fact, he has some sort of birth defect. On his thing. I don’t know what it is [giggles] I’ve never like really looked at it, because I’ve never done anything where | had to touch it. I’ve never touched it out of the whole time I worked for him I never touched his penis. Like, he I’m pretty sure he he rubbed it against me, but I’ve never ever been like, okay ] 2 3 4 = 6 7 8 9 I’m letting you do this or I’m gonna do this to you. Um, it’s really 10 weirdly shaped. I don’t know, do you want me to like tell you 11 this? 12 13 DETECTIVE: Yeah, please. 14 15 Is this proof? Like, 16 17 DETECTIVE: I do, | do want you to tell me. 18 19 Cause I feel like [sighs] 20 21 DETECTIVE: I know, I know. #8 23 | | FRIEND: You're talking to your girlfriends. Don’t think of them as guys. 24 You're talking to your girlfriends, 25 26 | [giggle] Okay [giggle]. I’m just really embarrassed. 27 28 DETECTIVE: I know, it’s okay. 29 30 fF Un, it’s like a teardrop, like a drop of water. It’s really fat at the 31 bottom and skinny at the top where its attached. And, he can never 32 get fully hard, ever. Like, I just could tell by looking at it, like, by 33 looking you can obviously tell if you’re hard or not and I could tell 34 that he wasn’t. 35 36 DETECTIVE: Okay. 37 38 P| So I don’t know if that’s some sort of thing that’s wrong with him, 39 but it definitely was not normal. And I have, I mean it’s not like I 40 sleep around, you know, but I’ve seen, and it was not normal. 4] 42 DETECTIVE: Right, in movies and stuff. 43 44 | Yeah. 45 Defense Transcript 10 October 11, 2005 PBPD & ~~ 07/26/17 Page 2349 Public Records Request No.: 17-295 * DOJ-OGR- 00032662