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DETECTIVE: So he would touch you with his hands, and did he touch you with anything else? Mm Bp WhN [ just told you, he touched me with his penis, like, 6 7? DEFECTIVE //L know, I mean, was there any toys, or 8 9 DETECTIVE 2: /TUI 10 1] P| Oh, yeah. Yeah. 12 13) DETECTIVE: Okay. Can you describe? 14 _— [sighs] He used to have a back massage thing that it was like a ball 16 on the end and it vibrated, and he would use that. And then, for his 7 birthday, Nadia and I went shopping. And um, we got a bunch of 18 toys, [laughs] which — I don’t know how to tell you guys all this i9 stuff without you thinking that I enjoyed this. Like, cause I had a 20 choice whether or not to go shopping with her. I made this 21 decision. I’m the one who did this stuff. But it doesn’t mean that I eae) felt right about it. Um, but yeah. We, he used lots of toys on me, 23 like I don’t know what specifically y’all want to know, like. He 24 25 DETECTIVE: //Okay 26 27 P| He, all the time. [sigh] Everything. Like, whatever 28 29 DETECTIVE: //Vibrators? 30 31 P| Whatever was there. If he wanted to use something else, he would 32 use whatever was there. Like, 33 34. DETECTIVE: Okay. What kind of vi — UI what color vibrators did he use? 35 36 P| Like white, and like — maybe it was like this color, but like blue, 37 like you see the gray, like the grayish, on the pipe. 38 39 DETECTIVE: Right. 40 ‘1 ii” The pipe. Like grey, with like a little bit more blue, like that. 42 43 DETECTIVE: Okay. 44 56 i And it had a white, like end, it had like a white handle and it had a 46 ball on the end of it for giving back massages. Um and then, there Defense Transcript 19 October 11, 2005 PBPD at 07/26/17 Page 2358 Public Records Request No.: 17-295 ~DOJ-OGR-00032671