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] P| It was a little circle and then yeah one girl told oh I got Alex to do 2 this and then you know. He, not that I would want anybody to get 3 involved in this but I brought girls I didn’t like and really frankly 4 did not give a shit about. Girls that I knew were skanks that would 5 do anything. Who, like, girls that would just like suck dick in the 6 bathroom at school. Like not even people that I was friends with 7 I'd just hear a rumor about a girl and be like hey I know a way you 8 can make two hundred dollars. But I would tell them before they 9 went I would tell them flat out like this is what you gotta do, are 10 you cool with this cause I am not going to take you if you’re not. 1] And I told them, they all knew that I got paid to bring them. And 12 I, it Wasa’, Mandy Biorklin. Mandy never did anything 13 though, she took off her shirt — she was a little overweight so he 14 didn’t want anything to do with [laughs], she was my best friend so 15 I you know she was another story, I did care about her but um she 16 lost her house and stuff and really needed money. She had, she 17 was homeless she had nowhere to go. So she did it out of. 18 desperation. But um I, the only people I can think of was 19 and Mandy. I might have asked other people but I don’t think I 20 ever actually brought other people. al ze DETECTIVE: Okay. Did anything ever happen between you and the two girls 23 that you brought there? 24 25 7 Mandy, she was really nervous so she wanted me to go in with her. 26 And I stayed with her, um, I took all my clothes off and I did my 27 regular thing, and she just took her shirt off. And then he said 28 ‘Okay well Miliiflis gonna finish up here, do you want to go wait by 29 the pool’ and she went downstairs and went swimming and I was 30 still naked. 31 32. DETECTIVE: Okay. 33 34 a And that was that. 3S 36 §©6DETECTIVE: Okay. 37 38 f She got paid I think three, two or three hundred dollars for that, 39 probably two because it was her first time. The way it went was if 40 you worked there for the first like three times, you got paid two 41 hundred dollars. After that, if you were persistent and worked all 42 the time it was the on average three hundred dollars. Sometimes I 43 got paid a thousand. Just for the same thing. No varying in det activities, just sometimes I’d walk out of there with a thousand 45 dollars or I mean I got lots of gifts, like I got lots of stuff from this 46 guy. I don’t know. Defense Transcript 23 October 11, 2005 PBPD & 07/26/17 Page 2362 Public Records Request No.: 17-295 DOJ-OGR-00032675