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| Well, I mean like he laid off with like going down on me and stuff v) like that, like when I went there UI dinner [cell phone rings] Hey 3 dad, daddy I’m still at work, I gotta call you when I get home, ok, + all right, ok, bye bye. Um, okay where was I? 5 6 DETECTIVE: After the New Years 7 8 Po //Oh yea, after the New Year, 9 10 DETECTIVE: //He wouldn’t go down on you anymore 11 12 P| //After the New Year, not that he wouldn’t but like he just didn’t, 13 like [ didn’t get like nothing significant happened with us. He 14 didn’t UI it was just like it was back in the beginning, like really 15 mild. 16 Iv DETECTIVE 2: Did he know you turned eighteen at that point? 18 19 | He was jumping for joy. 20 21 DETECTIVE 2: When you turned eighteen. So there was no doubt in your mind he 22 knew how old you were when you were originally UI i 24 P| //He bought my — oh a hundred percent! My Christmas no not my 25 Christmas gift my birthday gift for being eighteen was a plane 26 ticket to New York City. Like I left at 4:30 in the morning on my Ze eighteenth birthday to go to New York to to be with him. And, I 28 mean he didn’t tell me he, I didn’t know. He had a chauffeur pick 29 me up from the airport um in a bullet proof black Mercedes, | 30 remember that specifically. I’ve got pictures of that too if y'all 3] want some pictures [giggles] but um, uh, whatchamacallit. Yeah I 32 didn’t know that he wasn’t going to be there until after the 33 chauffeur picked me up and said Jeffrey’s on the phone for you 34 and he handed me a phone. And then I spoke to Jeffrey, Jeffrey’ s 35 like I’m not gonna be able to be there but I set all this stuff up for 36 you, you’re going to have a great time. Like you know then I just a7 that was that, | got someone to stay with and um 38 39 «=6DETECTIVE: //Was he ever into the S&M type of thing? 40 4] po I don’t even know what that is. Are you talking about whips and 42 chains and stuff? 43 44, DETECTIVE: Right, the tying up, the 45 Defense Transcript 38 October 11, 2005 PBPD a7 07/26/17 Page 2377 Public Records an a DOJ-OGR- 00032690