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Subject:
Ticket for Karyna
Title: American Express OD
800-375-8723
or
519-772-3570
Regards.
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Did you call flying blue?
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
i am now on hold for a Flying Blue rep...I had a normal rep...he couldnt help...
On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:16 PM
wrote:
Their record locator is VGBPEM
Regards,
EFTA_R1_01092386
EFTA02277302
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Let me know when you have them on line.
Regards,
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please issue ticket as stated below
On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:13 PM,
te:
Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
• Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
• Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport, (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
EFTA_R1_01092387
EFTA02277303
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you as
them on the line.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue account...purct
Karyna, then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for me pretty please!?
still determining what we want to do...
JE's AF Flying Blue Number: 1193608285
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open th
under Jeffrey's name..
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationship Manager
EFTA_R1_01092388
EFTA02277304
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be d
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours lal
done prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 to 1? (g
go through all this with our accounting department today... Rich is coming here at 2:30
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be d
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles?
am going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here a
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ...just to be sure
Amex points...
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
Regards,
EFTA_R1_01092389
EFTA02277305
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes i
be possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee). With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no lor
back to account, AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not poi
back.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new fl
or would we have to use more points to upgrade the new flight? what happens to those points? Ire;
points to AF that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and boot
usable? (this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible ..
cancel a flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always t
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it
used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue Pr;
for upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed, once points are transferred to AF, they are non;
Regards,
EFTA_R1_01092390
EFTA02277306
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we have
Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a membE
only way to upgrade would be through Amex..it also sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to
me the best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz c
Karyna..) Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of points used ...
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is
business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF Flying Blue account.
Regards,
1111.
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to busines
Regards,
1
11111111
1
PM EST
ok super
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record locator VG8PEM , I put it in Premium Economy.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
EFTA_R1_01092391
EFTA02277307
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay diffe
618 040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call,
they have mileage upgrade available.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what woi
to upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing wot
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for K;
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France
with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at httos://www.flyinablue.comffr/home/explorer and
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73,
fare between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407 580 points and 20% back.
EFTA_R1_01092392
EFTA02277308
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
EFTA_R1_01092393
EFTA02277309
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
On it.
Regards,
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on
roug
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Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class.
Premium economy and economy price too. We need to compare. I was not given times to depart. W
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Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
• Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
• Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
EFTA_R1_01092394
EFTA02277310
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport. (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you ask me tc
on the line.
Regards,
Natalia Natasha Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue account...purchase th
then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for me pretty please!?
still determining what we want to do...
JE's AF Flying Blu
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
EFTA_R1_01092395
EFTA02277311
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open the FLyii
Jeffrey's name..
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Regards,
Natalia Natasha Molotkova
ours:
on t roug
nay
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours later. Yea
prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles it is 1 to 1? (gosh I ha
through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
Regards,
Natalia Natasha Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 t
going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
EFTA_R1_01092396
EFTA02277312
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ...just to be sure. then
points...
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes it will b'
possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee). With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no longer availE
account, AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not points), if
back.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new flight we
would we have to use more points to upgrade the new flight? what happens to those points? I realize once
AF that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and book another airline.
(this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible ...they a
flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always be used
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
EFTA_R1_01092397
EFTA02277313
Regards,
OPPIPPIm
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it is that
used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue Premium
upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed, once points are transferred to AF, they are nonreversible.
Regards,
1111111111.1
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we have to op(
Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a member, and
way to upgrade would be through Amex.. it also sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to first...its on
best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz class (if biz cla
Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of points used ...
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is availab
business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF Flying Blue account.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to business and it
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
EFTA_R1_01092398
EFTA02277314
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok super
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record local
, I put it in Premium Economy.
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay difference
040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call, I have !
have mileage upgrade available.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what would this
upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing would be t
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
EFTA_R1_01092399
EFTA02277315
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for Karyna p
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France using a
with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at https://www.flyinoblue.com/fahomeiexplorer and I can tr
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73, so pay
between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407 580 points and 20% back.
ours:
on roug
nay
-
PM EST
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with points
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
EFTA_R1_01092400
EFTA02277316
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA COG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA COG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkov
(
)
7-098
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
On it.
Regards,
NEWEST
Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class. Optio
economy and economy price too. We need to compare. I was nc
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i have them on line..
On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Natalia Molotko
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Let me know when you have them on line.
Regards,
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(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
please issue ticket as stated below
On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Natalia Molot
rote:
Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport, (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
Regards,
EFTA_R1_01092402
EFTA02277318
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you as
them on the line.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue account...purct
Karyna, then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for me pretty please!?
still determining what we want to do...
JE's AF Flying Blue Number 1193608285
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open tt
under Jeffrey's name..
EFTA_R1_01092403
EFTA02277319
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Regards,
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be d
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours lal
done prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15.000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15.000 Amex points to get the 15.000 miles? it is 1 to 1? (g
go through all this with our accounting department today... Rich is coming here at 2:30
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be d
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles?
am going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here a.
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ...just to be sure
Amex points...
EFTA_R1_01092404
EFTA02277320
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
Regards,
MOM
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes i
be possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee). With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no lor
back to account, AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not poi
back.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new fl
or would we have to use more points to upgrade the new flight? what happens to those points? I re;
points to AF that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and bool
usable? (this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible ..
cancel a flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always t
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it
EFTA_R1_01092405
EFTA02277321
used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue Pri
for upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed, once points are transferred to AF, they are none
Re.ards,
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we have
Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a memtx
only way to upgrade would be through Amex..it also sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to
me the best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz c
Karyna..) Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of points used ...
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is .
business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF Flying Blue account.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to busines
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok super
EFTA_R1_01092406
EFTA02277322
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record locator VG8PEM , I put it in Premium Economy.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay diffe
618 040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call,
they have mileage upgrade available.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what woi
to upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing wot
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for Ki
EFTA_R1_01092407
EFTA02277323
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France t
with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at httes://www.flvingblue.com/fr/home/exolorer and
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73,
fare between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407 580 points and 20% back.
Regards,
Friday 9AM-530PM EST
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
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EFTA02277324
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
On it.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class.
Premium economy and economy price too. We need to compare. I was not given times to depart. W
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Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
• Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
• Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport, (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you ask me tc
on the line.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue account...purchase th
then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for me pretty please!?
still determining what we want to do...
EFTA_R1_01092410
EFTA02277326
JE's AF Flying Blu
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
Regards,
ours:
on roug
nay
-
EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open the FLyii
Jeffrey's name..
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours later. Ye:
prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles it is 1 to 1? (gosh I he
through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
EFTA_R1_01092411
EFTA02277327
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 t
going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ..just to be sure. then
points...
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
Regards,
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes it will bi
possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee). With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no longer avails
account, AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not points), if
back.
Regards,
11010111111
EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new flight we
would we have to use more points to upgrade the new flight? what happens to those points? I realize once
EFTA_R1_01092412
EFTA02277328
AF that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and book another airline.
(this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible ...they a
flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always be used
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it is that
used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue Premium
upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed, once points are transferred to AF, they are nonreversible.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we have to op(
Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a member, and
way to upgrade would be through Amex.. it also sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to first...its on
best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz class (if biz cla
Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of points used ...
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is availab
business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF Flying Blue account.
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EFTA02277329
Regards,
111111111111
If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to business and it
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationship Manager
natalia molotkoyansenturion.com
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok super
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record locator VG8PEM , I put it in Premium Economy.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay difference
040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call, I have
have mileage upgrade available.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
EFTA_R1_01092414
EFTA02277330
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what would this
upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing would be t
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for Karyna p
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France using a
with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at haps://www.flyinablue.com/fahome/explorer and I can tr
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73, so pay
between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407 580 points and 20% back.
Regards,
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with points
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
EFTA_R1_01092415
EFTA02277331
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA COG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Regards,
ours:
on roug
ri ay
-
On it.
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EFTA02277332
Regards,
Natalia Natasha Molotkova
Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class. Optic
economy and economy price too. We need to compare. I was nc
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Their record locator is VGBPEM
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Let me know when you have them on line.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
EFTA_R1_01092417
EFTA02277333
please issue ticket as stated below
On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:13 PM,
wrote:
Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
• Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
• Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport, (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you ask me tc
them on the line.
Regards,
11111.
EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue account...purchase th
Karyna, then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for me pretty please!?
EFTA_R1_01092418
EFTA02277334
still determining what we want to do...
JE's AF Flying Blue Number: 1193608285
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
ours:
on roug
nay
- OPM EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open the FLyii
under Jeffrey's name..
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours later. Ye:
done prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 to 1? (gosh I ha
go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
EFTA_R1_01092419
EFTA02277335
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be done pri
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 t
am going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ...just to be sure. then
Amex points...
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes it will b'
be possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee). With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no longer av
back to account, AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not points), if
back.
EFTA_R1_01092420
EFTA02277336
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new flight we
or would we have to use more points to upgrade the new flight? what happens to those points? I realize or
points to AF that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and book anoth
usable? (this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible ...they a
cancel a flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always be used
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
Regards,
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it is that
used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue Premium
for upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed, once points are transferred to AF, they are nonreversil
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationship Manager
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we have to op(
Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a member, and
only way to upgrade would be through Amex..it also sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to first...i
me the best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz class (il
Karyna..) Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of points used ...
EFTA_R1_01092421
EFTA02277337
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is availab
business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF Flying Blue account.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to business and it
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationshi. Mana. er
(877)877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok super
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record locator VG8PEM , I put it in Premium Economy.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay difference
618 040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call, I have
they have mileage upgrade available.
Regards,
EFTA_R1_01092422
EFTA02277338
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationship Manager
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what would this
to upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing would be t
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for Karyna p
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France using rr
with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at https://www.flyindblue.comffr/home/explorer and I can tr
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73, so pay
fare between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407 580 points and 20% back.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
EFTA_R1_01092423
EFTA02277339
So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with points I
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB COG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
ST
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EFTA02277340
On it.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class. Options
Premium economy and economy price too. We need to compare. I was not given times to depart. What is t
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Your response is required to complete this reservation. Prices and availability are subject to change.
• Total air reservation, including taxes and fees: $3956.33.
• Ticket is non-refundable, $300.00 change penalty applies plus difference in fare.
• Wed 06 Feb - Air France 99 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Miami Airport, (MIA) at 4.40pm
Arriving: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 7.15am
• Thu 14 Feb - Air France 6 - Premium Economy - 8h 35m
Departing: Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, (CDG) at 1.20pm
Arriving: New York John F Kennedy Airport, (JFK) at 3.55pm
Please reply to this email and provide your authorization to proceed.
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Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Centurion Relationship Manager
EFTA_R1_01092425
EFTA02277341
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok, calling them now!
OK, let's issue ticket first, after that you will call Air France about upgrade, if it is still available, you
ask me to transfer points while you have them on the line.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK! we have permission to transfer the 30,000 points to Jeffrey's new AF Flying Blue
account...purchase the premium economy seats for Karyna, then upgrade her to biz! Can you do for
me pretty please!?
still determining what we want to do...
JE's AF Flying Blue Number: 1193608285
ok, I will go in and set up an account...
Yes, I need account number.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
EFTA_R1_01092426
EFTA02277342
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
ok...maybe you should go ahead and link the Amex card to account now! Do you need me to open
the FLying Blue account? I would do so under Jeffrey's name..
terrific!! got it!
Before transferring points to AF, I need to link Flying Blue account to AMEX card.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be
done prior to departure?
Availability for upgrade is not guaranteed, it is available now, it could be not like two hours
later. Yes, to get upgrade, it has to be done prior to departure, but after ticketing.
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles? it is 1 to 1?
(gosh I hate this...sorry) but I am going to have to go through all this with our accounting department today...Rich
is coming here at 2:30
15 000 miles it is per flight, so if you need round trip - it is 30 000 miles.
Yes 1 AMEX point is 1 AF mile.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
EFTA_R1_01092427
EFTA02277343
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
-if I want you to transfer Amex points to AF to upgrade premium economy to biz class, this must be
done prior to departure?
-you said it is 15,000 miles to upgrade...do we transfer 15,000 Amex points to get the 15,000 miles?
it is 1 to 1? (gosh I hate this...sorry) but I am going to have to go through all this with our
accounting department today...Rich is coming here at 2:30
thank you,...got it on the AF miles.
so in our case, it is probably better to use points after the person has taken the flight ...just to be
sure. then we will not be losing out on our Amex points...
You can pay with points only when you know for sure he or she is taking flight, even after departure.
Regards,
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
OK, if you got upgrade using AF miles and changing flight - if upgrade is available on new flight, yes
it will be confirmed using old miles (could be possible difference in air fare or miles plus change fee).
With AF, if upgrade for new flight is no longer available, I believe they refund miles back to account,
AF account.
If you used AMEX points and canceling - you are getting money back if ticket was refundable (not
points), if ticket was non-refundable, nothing back.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
EFTA_R1_01092428
EFTA02277344
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
if we transfer Amex points to AF miles, but then change the flight we used them on, would the new
flight we change to automatically upgrade? or would we have to use more points to upgrade the
new flight? what happens to those points? I realize once we transfer them from Amex points to AF
that is it with our Amex points. I also worry, what if we cancel the flight with AF and book another
airline...are those points gone or usable? (this sounds like a huge headache to me)
Also, confirm to me, once we pay with Amex points for an upgrade, those points are non reversible
...they are gone, yes...if we change or cancel a flight we have upgraded, we do not get them back?
hmmm, now I am thinking it is better to get Gift Cards for Saks or Bergdorf as the cards can always
be used...
Are you talking about airline miles or AMEX points?
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
so if we have to change her flight (which happens a lot over here) then the points are gone? I think it
is that way whenever we use points, once used, they are not redeemable...
It is up to you - you can get Flying Blue account fro her or him. Once you have it, we need to issue
Premium Economy and transfer points to AF for upgrade, upgrade availability can't be guaranteed,
once points are transferred to AF, they are nonreversible.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
EFTA_R1_01092429
EFTA02277345
oh wow!...that is MUCH better! that is way less points to do with AF Flying Blue account..do we
have to open an AF Flying Blue account for Jeffrey? or it is automatic through Amex? I need to
make sure Biz class is good for Karyna..
I got through...Jeffrey's AF frequent flyer number was cancelled back in 2009...so he is not a
member, and for sure not an Elite member...the only way to upgrade would be through Amex..it also
sounds like lots of restrictions to get an award to first...its only if it is available.
Seems to me the
best option would be to purchase the premium economy seat and upgrade with points to Biz class (if
biz class is acceptable to JE for Karyna..) Less real money up front and not an enormous amount of
points used ...
OK, we got through - we can issue ticket as Premium Economy and after ticketing get upgrade - it is
available now at 15 000 miles per flight - to business. We will have to transfer AMEX points to AF
Flying Blue account.
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N alia N to h Molotkov
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If they pick up first fro you, ask them if mileage upgrade available from premium economy to
business and if it booked correctly as I hold it.
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
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ok super
And I am calling two. If you got them first, use record locator VG8PEM , I put it in Premium
(877) 877-0987
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
I can call Flying Blue...i have 2 phones on my desk ;)
Thank you you for below!
Do you think it would be less points to transfer them to AF? or you have no idea...
OK, Premium Economy seat on Air France is $3956.33, business is $10,136.73. So you can pay
difference in fare of $6180.40 using points - 618 040 American Express points and 20 % back.
I can try to call Flying Blue - it is usually a very very long hold time with them, and if I am getting call,
I have to take call and hung up on hold, if they have mileage upgrade available.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
If we wanted to purchase the Premium economy seat and upgrade to Biz on the AF flights...what
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would this cost and how many points needed to upgrade? (sorry!)
I see you gave me premium economy price but it is different return flight...so not sure the pricing
would be the same.
oops! sorry! you already gave me the biz price!
Can you tell me the biz class AF price?
thank you for the break down! Let me find out what he wishes to do....Keep the flight on HOLD for
Karyna please :1
You can't upgrade Air France ticket through Delta. And you can't book Premier class with Air France
using miles if you don't have highest status with Air France.
You can check mileage availability on Air France at https://www.flyinqblue.comffrlhome/explorer and
I can transfer AMEX points to Air France.
I checked mileage space via Delta, nothing available on Delta in business round trip as direct.
So, if the goal is First class, here are options:
1) pay whole first class ticket in points - 1 412 253 points and 20 % back.
2) pay for first class ticket partially in points - let say business class fare on Air France is $10,136.73,
so pay it with money, and difference in fare between business and first - $4075.80 - pay in points 407
580 points and 20% back.
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
would it be less expensive to purchase as a Delta ticket and upgrade to first with Delta than AF?
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So what is best idea for first class AF round trip for Karyna...? We buy coach fare and upgrade with
points to first?
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
Ok. Let me ask him thx
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First class:
1 AF
2 AF
99 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
6 14FEB CDG JFK 0120P 0355P
TOTAL FARE - USD 14212.53
Business:
1 AA
62 06FEB MIA CDG 0625P 0905A
2 AA
45 14FEB CDG JFK 0955A 1235P
TOTAL FARE - USD 8343.53
Premium economy:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
$3930.23
Coach:
1 DL /AF
8345 06FEB MIA CDG 0440P 0715A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
2 DL /AF
1022 14FEB CDG JFK 0815A 1040A
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
TOTAL FARE - USD 2772.23
Regards,
Natalia (Natasha) Molotkova
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On it.
Regards,
Hours: Mon through Friday 9AM-530PM EST
Hi Natasha. karyna needs a flight miami paris. 6th feb return 14th to new york . Biz or first class.
Options and best price in market? Premium economy and economy price too. We need to
compare. I was not given times to depart. What is best?
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