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From: Richard Kahn
To: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Next
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 19:35:45 +0000
please advise on list of contingent liabilities
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
tel
fax
cell
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From: Neale Attenborough
Subject: Re: Next
Date: September 6, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM EDT
To: Richard Kahn <
Cc: Chris Lawler <
>
>, Tyler Shean ita
We have a term sheet ready and will forward once we receive the list of contingent liabilities you would like us
to consider, as we agreed on our last call.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Richard Kahn <
wrote:
When can I expect your term sheet with details that we discussed explaining exactly what entity will be
selling what...
I would assume your offer of 8 million cash and 1 million a year for three years would allow for the litigation
expense and liability (if any) to come out of the future payments... so probably 5 years needed...
Please advise
Thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York NY 10022
tel
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cell
On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Neale Attenborough <1=1===>
wrote:
As we agreed yesterday:
We will lay our a term sheet which includes the deal I spoke of
yesterday. It will include all the entities that will be involved and
the concept of some cash paid over time.
You will detail exactly which potential liabilities you speak of
below you would like us to consider.
We can then see fit is possible to hammer out a deal.
Thanks.
On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
To move this along I would suggest the following: a rough
detailed draft of a term sheet with seller companies detailed.
how many entities? an amount of cash left back and an amount
of dollars also spread over a number of years. default
suggestions and
your ideas on how to deal with liablity.
ie
ny class action waiting to be certified. . others like paris etc.
thank you.
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Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Tel
Fax
Cell
On Aug 30, 2017, at 7:16 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
I would add that you are selling an offshore vehicle formed
under an agreement that puzzles me.
The whole co is not for
sale and if so we might argue along some similar but less
exagerrated lines
multiples of large biz from years ago.
I
guess if you find the dramatically too low, you might offer to buy
out Faith and Joel , using your formulas. with a premium for
control.
Jeffrey is set to join the call and has authority to make
the decision to accept or reject.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone
Fax
Cell
On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Richard Kahn
> wrote:
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i already pointed out currency exchange, board fees etc. as a
bad number in your calculations. sorry....the other
transactions that we know very well are far from relevant. . if
faith and joel walk there is NO business which is hardly the
same idea as IMG where multi divisions exist and succession
is planned. I do not know what cash was on the balance
sheet when you bought it.
The open gate transaction to
summarize was a stepping into your shoes for only 6 million
or roughly the same as the current offer.
taking out cash 14
of the 15 mil which has not come out. and even on your
calculation of 8 cash would mean 3.2 to you back then... and
then leveraging the biz. / the liability to the buyer was no
where near that to golden gate. sorry. . . We can go back
and forth on comps and can show mom and pop at 1 to
3 times ebitda. . so lets try to short circuit a tiresome
uncessary excercise, as i see it the current bid offer is 5 bid
and approx 9 .2 offer.
open gates 6 + 3.2 from 2 years ago
with more growth potential and lower cash out. multiples from
before digital photos and amazon. sorry
I am suprised that
you would inflate current Ebitda, pull multiples from many
years ago to biz that are tangential. leave out liabilites even of
lawsuits that you know about, and then pick a cash number to
subtract for enterprise value. If I have misunderstood and you
are not really sellers then I will not be insulted if you decide to
cancel our call.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Tel
Fax
Cell
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Neale Attenborough
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> wrote:
Richard,
Not funny at all, just factual.
I think if we are to ultimately agree on value it will be important we agree on a set of facts:
1.
TTM EBITDA is $6.7Million. If you disagree, please let us know precisely what items you disagree with
in the number and we can discuss.
2.
The current cash balance for the company is $13.1 Million.
3.
The past three comparable transactions for companies in this market average an enterprise value at
—10x multiple of EBITDA
a.
Wilhelmina: 7x (average meaningful trading multiple since 2010)
b. Creative Artists Agency: 10x (TPG acquisition, 2014)
c.
IMG: 13x (WME acquisition, 2013)
4.
We invested $18 million for a 42% stake in the business, implying an enterprise value of $42.9 million.
5.
We received a bona fide offer from OpenGate Capital which would have resulted in $18 million in
proceeds for us (and in fact a $17 million distribution to Faith and Joel), and while they were, as you
point out, contemplating leverage in the <3x EBITDA range, it is in fact a relevant data point and an
independent look at value.
6.
One other note that is relevant to us, is that when Elite Models in Europe contacted us with an
interest in buying the company, Faith told me to relay to them that they would not contemplate
selling to Elite for less than $100 million (which at the time was a +10x synergy-adjusted EBITDA
value). Ultimately they walked based on that value requirement.
I would hope you agree that the following is a commonly agreed upon formula for value:
a.
Enterprise value = EBITDA x Market Multiple
b. Equity Value = Enterprise Value + net cash (or — net debt).
One matter of judgment is what of the cash balance is "excess cash". Joel has said he believes all the cash is
due to the models. The facts show that in the ordinary course of business the collection of receivables offsets
the payables and in the past three years, the cash balance has only fluctuated at most by $3 million, meaning
anywhere from $8-10 million on the balance sheet should be considered to be "excess cash", not needed for
day-to-day operations. I have attached both a three year cash balance tracker and a current balance sheet for
your review.
Using the above, a very modest calculation of value would be $6.7 million of EBITDA x 5 multiple (a 50%
discount to the market) or an enterprise value of $33.5 million and if we took a conservative view of what
excess cash is at the moment of $8 million, would result in a total equity value of $41.5 million. Our 42%
would equate to $17.4 million of proceeds to us. That is at a multiple that has been deeply discounted to the
market comps that were actually paid for companies in the same business.
We are, however, willing to take much less than this very discounted value calculation, as I have mentioned to
you before. However, your proposal of $5 million of proceeds to us represents an equity value of $11.9 million
($5/.42), an enterprise value of $3.9 million ($11.9 million - $8 million of excess cash) or an EBITDA multiple of
0.58x ($6.7 x 0.58 = $3.9 enterprise value), a level that is far too low for us to accept.
I look forward to our discussion tomorrow morning.
Neale
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From: Richard Kahn [mato
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 11:51 AM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Re: Next
Pretty funny Neale...
Even the silly open gate proposal was in essence stepping into your shoes for only 6 million cash.
BACK THEN !!
Then proposing to distribute what they estimated to be almost the full total (14 of the 15 million) of
cash on the balance sheet. Chris i must point out that is more than it totals today. Then having Joel,
Faith, etc leverage themselves up by borrowing at 7 percent against the entire co in order to make a
further distribution of an additional 15 million which on paper creates a highly inflated enterprise
value. He only proposed 6 million cash infusion which is around the same amount that you are
currently being offered. They valued faith and joels ongoing equity (that they proposed they "keep
in") silly, at 8mm which is roughly the same as we suggested. Financial engineering done well is
like lipstick.. however not done well is also like lipstick. :) This is a personal service business, no
more no less and suggesting that they leverage themselves up so you that they can pay themselves a
higher salary fails the HBS first year class that i am aware you have taken. Regarding the 18
million, we have distributions from Next directly to the former shareholders of the claxon offshore
entity of approx 3. Regarding the receivables you can ask millie... sorry
PS
Faith and joel will have to borrow the money to buy you out at 5.. can be done, but not so
easy. they have never taken out real money from the company in any form: salary etc.... hence they
have little net worth and current lenders are not that comfortable with the potential liabilities....
On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Neale Attenborough <
wrote:
I look forward to our conversation.
For the record, we did actually pay $18MM for 42% of this business in 2008. At the time that represented an
—8x multiple of EBITDA. That is not a fictitious number. In addition we did receive a bid for about the same
amount from Open Gate Capital, a reputable private equity firm. I do not understand why you say that ii is
"hardly legitimate". While I did say we didn't expect to receive what we paid, I did not say it was immaterial.
I don't follow most of what you say below and look forward to hearing your clarification. However, can you
please clarify one statement specifically? What do you mean when you say the current receivables have not
be reviewed in years?
Thanks,
Neale
From: Richard Kahn [rnailto:
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:45 PM
To: Neale Attenborough
Cc: Chris Lawler
Subject: Next
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confirmed thank you
We have reviewed your statements that you sent to us along with the K-1's and some financials.
Frankly, some of the numbers are inaccurate as a result of millie. Your annual financial statements
were reviewed but not audited - shame on all of you... Your calculation of Ebitda includes things
like adding back foreign exchange costs? board fees etc. That is not the way we look at what is
unfortunately for all merely a personal service business.
Faith and Joel make up the business, nothing more. We calculate the Ebidta, which we think is an
odd way of measuring value of a personal service biz with lots of competition and small growth
opportuinties if any. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and ignoring how much you paid or if
some of that money was repaid directly to the former owners of Claxon and not truly understanding
what you described as a fixed tax payment per quarter (ie based on what I think looking back over
the past three years) ebitda looks like 4-5 million. We have bought many small biz and usually pay
mom and pops for I- 3 times ebita or more usually 4 times net income. We are finding it difficult
to get to more than a 15 million total value for Next ( not including liabilities). The 18 million dollar
bid that you mentioned Faith said was hardly legitimate. I think further review of the accounting
tax etc. is probably a waste of all our time. As you rightly said, what you initially paid is somewhat
if not totatly immaterial to todays value. You have not factored in the liabilities, both
reputationally and fiscal yet. I think the 5 million cash offer or 6m over time is fair. I look forward
to our conversation on tuesday. As another note, the current receivables have not been reviewed for
years...
Rich
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