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Case 18-2868, Document 278, 08/09/2019, 2628230, Page449 of 648 Confidential Page 13 DAVID RODGERS a Jeffrey Epstein owned or controlled airplane? A. It was -- let me think. This was 908 Juliet, Echo -- I believe it was owned by Hyperion Air, Inc., I believe. Q. And is Hyperion Air, to your understanding, a company associated with Jeffrey Epstein? A. As far as I know. I mean, I would assume QO. Was Jeffrey Epstein your primary passenger A. Q. on that airplane? A. Yes. Q. And who was the individual that gave you direction as to what passengers to let on and off the airplane and where to fly, et cetera? A. Well, Jeffrey was usually -- I mean, almost always on the airplane, unless we were going to maintenance. And so when he got there, he would have the people with him. Q. Okay. So going back to the aircraft identification mark, 908JE, does the JE signify the initials of Jeffrey Epstein? MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES