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From: David Stern <EIMINI=>
To: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:50:54 +0000
This is from the leading private wealth law firm, Withers.
I copy the last point they made: could this be of interest/use for us?
7.
We touched on a planning technique used by a number of our clients. The nature of modem anti-money
laundering rules generally requires confirmation as to the identity of the original source of funds. A route to
prevent this disclosure if it is seen as unattractive is to interpose a regulated or listed vehicle within the structure
on the basis that many anti money laundering codes do not require verification of the owners of such entities.
We have implemented this planning previously using entities regulated in Luxembourg and the Channel Islands.
From: Graves, Katie [mailto
Cc: Munro, Philip
Subject: Potential new matter
You asked us to follow up the meeting by setting down a summary of some of the key points discussed:
1.
You suggested that there was now a particular desire on the part of high net worth investors to achieve a
degree of 'ring-fencing' in the structuring of their investments as opposed to simply focusing on growth.
This has been a particular concern of our clients following the banking crisis with clients concerned both
in respect of the potential for claims to arise against them personally, and also in respect of contagion risk
with pooled investments. Trusts can be useful vehicles in terms of trying to safeguard assets from
creditor and third party claims such that they have a role in relation to the first concern. The second
concern, in practice, tends to be addressed through ensuring the segregation of assets at investment level
with the implementation of appropriate custodianship arrangements.
2.
You described the wealth management platform you are envisaging creating as an 'asset management
service', your idea being that the platform would facilitate the investment ideas that the participating
families wish to implement.
3.
There is an increasing understanding of the benefits of trusts within the PRC, particularly in the context
of pre-IPO planning. In practice, trusts have been widely used by families in Europe and the Middle East
for a number of generations such that, while some investors might find an investment model geared
towards entry by trusts attractive, some investors may already have family trusts meaning that they might
not find the offering of a Hong Kong trust useful or necessary. Further, where families have European or
North American connections, a trust can carry, in some contexts, negative tax consequences. As we
discussed, a model, then, predicated on a family discretionary trust entry vehicle would not necessarily
suit all potential investors and each trust would need to be tailored to the individual family
circumstances. In terms of promoting the proposed platform I think it would be important to stress that it
would be open architecture and that you would want to work with each of the families as to how best to
structure their involvement.
4.
As an alternative to the use of a family discretionary trust, investors might be interested in entering their
investment through a unit or investment trust model in which there is a trust which holds their investment
but which issues, in consideration for the transfer to it, units or securities which may be transferrable to
other family members. In practice, such a trust offers less third-party protection but may avoid some of
the tax issues that investors with European or North American connections have. As a third option, we
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are aware of arrangements whereby a trust for the purpose of making investments for a family is
established against which the family essentially have the contractual right to the investment returns.
5.
We discussed the ways in which fees could be received in respect of a structure using trusts. If you
were to form an entity to act as a trustee, this entity could charge annual trustee fees. A trust can also
appoint an investment manager under contract and can pay an arm's length management fee to a
manager. There would, accordingly, seem to be two tiers of charging easily available.
6.
Presently there is limited regulation of trust companies in Hong Kong such that it would be relatively
straightforward to form a private trustee company to act as trustee of one or more trusts. You would also
wish to form an investment management entity. The investment management entity would likely need to
be regulated in some jurisdiction. We touched on regulation in the UK and in Hong Kong. In many
cases, our clients are using offshore investment managers because of the lighter-touch regimes to which
they are subject.
7.
We touched on a planning technique used by a number of our clients. The nature of modem anti-money
laundering rules generally requires confirmation as to the identity of the original source of funds. A route
to prevent this disclosure if it is seen as unattractive is to interpose a regulated or listed vehicle within the
structure on the basis that many anti money laundering codes do not require verification of the owners of
such entities. We have implemented this planning previously using entities regulated in Luxembourg and
the Channel Islands.
I hope this e-mail is useful. Please do let us know how best we can take this matter forward. Unfortunately we
do not have Raymond and Gregory's email addresses so have not been able to send this email direct to them.
Kind Regards
Katie Graves
(on behalf of Withers)
Partner - Wealth Plannin
Direct line:
Withers LLP
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