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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page69 of 883 251 Q Was she getting paid as much as she was getting paid to work for Jeff Epstein? A Definitely not. Q She no longer had cash all around? A Nope. Q You mentioned that there was -- you had several conversations with Virginia when she was discussing them wanting -- or I think the word you used was force, but later we tried to clarify that, but them forcing her to have sex with Prince Andrew. Do you remember that? A Yeah. Q And that you expressed that you were worried for her safety if she were to decline that? A Yes. Q What about your conversation with Virginia on that particular occasion made you worried for Virginia's safety? A Just the way she was talking to me. Like, she just sounded scared. Q And what -- what -- try to dig back and remember what exactly she was saying and how she was saying it, if you could just describe that for us. A She said that she went to go in -- I remember at one time she was talking to me about how Southern Reporting Company www.Southernreporting.com - (386)257-3663