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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page180 of 883 G Maxwell - Confidential what she was, so just by her own words, one doesn't know what's true and what isn't true. Q. Are you saying what position she said she was working in, is that what you are considering the obvious lie? A. I said inconsistency within her own statement from everything, so in the beginning it starts off with different statements. Q. Then I believe you said the second piece was that she was driven by her father? A. I said she was driven by her mother. Q. That's the obvious lie? A. It's an obvious lie to me. Q. You said why don't you state it in your own words but the characterization of how she was with Jeffrey, what about that is an obvious lie? A. I was standing outside talking to her mother so the entire story is a fabrication. Q. Did she not have sex with Jeffrey Epstein during that first massage? MAGNA®