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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page271 of 883 Confidential DAVID RODGERS No. No. Do you remember an Ed Tuttle? Yes. And who was he? A. I believe Ed was a, probably in construction. I think he may have been around before the Jeffrey -- well, let me think. Q. If we skip down to March 16th, I see his So I don't know if that's going to help you. A. I believe -- I believe Ed Tuttle was like maybe an architect, or somewhere in the construction, real estate side, I believe. Q. Okay. So flight No. 1477 -- A. Uh-huh. Q. -- from LaGuardia to Palm Beach, is that Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Emmy Tayler, Joe Pagano, Eva Dubin? A. Yes. Q. Celina Dubin? Yes. Jordan Dubin? Right. Maya Dubin and two nannies? Yes. MAGNA®©