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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page366 of 883 Page 14 Q. Okay. So, I assume then that your wife that you are separated from I guess at the time, she didn't come down to Palm Beach? A. No, no. Q. And this is somebody who still lives somewhere other than Florida? A. Correct. Q. So, you came down in February 2005 and began working. What did you, what did you first start doing for Jeffrey Epstein? A. First I doing? I don't remember nothing special. Q. Okay. Well, were you working -- I will rephrase it. Were you working only for Jeffrey Epstein or were you working also for Ghislaine Maxwell, the other person who interviewed you, or anybody else in the house? A. I guess only for him because she was visiting a few times house, but I am employed by him. Q. Okay. What was your understanding at that time as to the relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein? A. They were like partners in business. Q. Okay. What business was that, if you (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601-051-976-2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601-051-976-2934) Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins (601-051-976-2934) 2d75a91 d-3eaa-42b3-ae22-b5d3c7182d1e GIUFFRE004437