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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page360 of 883 Page 212 | 1 Q. -- would be the young one? 2 A. Yeah. 3 Q. You stated that Ms. Maxwell was very hard on 4 you and you gol blamed for everylLhing, and thal you -- 5 you liked the job and you liked Mr. Epstein, but you 6 didn't like working for Mrs. Maxwell? 7 A. That's correct. 8 Q. Can you tell me why, other than that she 9 blamed you for everything? 10 A. She came from a very wealthy family and she 11 was -- just my opinion; I give my personal opinion -- 12 that she was rotten spoiled and she tried to drive the 13 house like a palace and not a home. 14 I was -- I discussed it with her, many, many 15 times we have discussions. And sometimes I even refuse 16 to do her orders, knowing that I was going to be backed 17 up by Mr. Epstein or do the right thing, my thinking of 18 running the house should be. But we never had a good 19 relationship at all from the beginning, I don't think 20 so. But I was -- have to be her driver and she will go 21 and shop all over the malls and I will have to go behind 22 her, pay for it and bring the bags to the car. 23 Next day or the same day she will do shopping 24 and buy and say, John, go to this store and get it. It 25 was a lot of work. It was a lot that she created and (561) 832-7500 ) prea COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377-676-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377-676-2895) 3afc3ca0-c86e-4b9f-8d01-ba20bcae87de