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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page383 of 883 Page 150 Page 152 Q. The girls who came to the house for massages, did you ever call a cab to bring any of the girls home? A. Probably on a few occasions. Q. So is it your understanding that they would have arrived by cab as well? MR. CRITTON: Form. THE WITNESS: Yes. BY MR, MERMELSTEIN: 10 Q. And how would that come about, were you 11 given instructions to call a cab by anyone? 12 A. No, I would call the cab, the taxi. 13 Q. How did you know a cab needed to be 1 Q. You had a laptop? 2 A. No, it was desktop. 3 Q. Okay. So you had your own desktop in the 4 staff house? 5 A. Yeah, Exactly. 6 Q. And you don't know what was -- what was 7 the files in that computer versus on the other 8 computers? 9 A. No, sir. 10 Q. Did you ever see any pornography on any 11 of the computers? 12 A. No, sir. 13 Q. Are you sure about that? WAN DUNAWNE 14 A. Pornography as in sexual acts, no. 14 called? 15 Q. Pornography as in naked people, men or 15 A. Because Sarah would tell me can you get 16 women. 16 mea taxi. 17 Q. So when the girl was finished what she 18 was doing Sarah would come to you and say -- 19 A. She would call me. 20 MR. CRITTON: Form. 21 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: 22 Q. She would call you? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Okay. You would be in the guest house at 25 the time? 17 A. Yeah, there were some. 18 Q. Okay. And describe to me what that was. 19 A. They were like models. 20 Q. And where were those in the computer? I 21 mean, how did you access that? 22 A. They were in the files and some of it 23 in -- you mean which file they were, what was your 24 question? 25 Q. Where were they in the computer? There Page 151 Page 153 1 were downloaded files on computer? 1 A. Yes. 2 A. They were downloaded, yes. 2 Q. Do you recall having to do that often? 3 MR. CRITTON: Form. 3 A. No, not very often, sir. 4 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: 4 Q. Did Mr. Epstein keep photograph equipment 5 Q. Okay. There were photographs of naked 5 in the house? 6 women? 6 A. I don't remember seeing it. 7 A. Models. 7 Q. Do you recall seeing any video equipment? 8 Q. And why do you say models? 8 A. No, sir. 9 A. Because it was like a catalog so you have 9 Q. Do you recall any video or photograph 10 models, you know. 10 equipment in the master bedroom? 11 Q. And what was your understanding as a 11 A. No, sir. 12 source of these photos? 12 Q. The models that you saw on the computer, 13 A. Idon't know, sir. It was just a 13 did you recognize any of them as having been at 14 curiosity on myself and it was -- it was none of 14 the house? 15 my business but, you know, | just happen to see 15 A. No. 16 them there. 16 Q. The girls who stayed at the house, did Q. Did these girls appear very young to you? —}17—any of then speak wittra foreigrraccent?@———}-— 18 MR. CRITTON: Form. 18 A. Yes. 19 THE WITNESS: No, sir. They were young 19 Q. Many of them? 20 but not underage. 20 MR. CRITTON: Form. 21 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: 21 THE WITNESS: Some of them. 22 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: 23 Q. Would any of them not speak any English? 24 A. No. 25 Q. They all spoke English? 22 Q. Is there anything in particular that 23 makes you draw that conclusion? 24 A. Because they are developed, you know. 25 It's hard to say, sir, you know. 39 (Pages 150 to 153) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000285