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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page380 of 883 Page 26 Page 28 1 with a copy. 1 A. Yes. Sometimes very short notice but, 2 Q. Were you the only one who was allowed to 2 yes, I was. 3. answer the phone? 3 Q. So that varied? 4 A. Yes. 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. I'm sorry, what would you do -- 5 Q. Who would give you that notice? 6 A. I would leave it on the counter next to 6 A. Mrs. Maxwell or Sarah or Larry, the 7 the kitchen so when I find that piece all crumbled 7 pilot. 8 I knew that Mr. Epstein saw the message, so we 8 Q. And then you would drive to pick them up 9 communicated like that. 9 at the airport? 10 Q. Now, you mentioned Mr. Epstein would give | 10 A. Yes. 11 you instructions during the course of the day. ll Q. And who traveled with him? 12 A. Through his assistant. 12 A. The three pilots and some guests. 13 Q. And his assistant was whom? 13 Q. What do you mean by guests? 14 A. Sarah Kellen. 14 A. He will have some friends from Harvard, 15 Q. But you didn't view her as your 15 he will have -- well, very important people that, 16 supervisor? 16 you know, friends, acquaintances from New York or 17 A. She take orders from Mrs. Maxwell but she 17 Europe because I was just told the number of 18 will tell me, Alfredo, we need to buy this, we 18 people was coming on the plane. 19 need to do this, and so and so was coming. I 19 Q. Were there people who were employed by 20 couldn't talk directly to Mr. Epstein. 20 him who came regularly? 21 Q. Okay. So any communications from Mr. 21 A. Yes. 22 Epstein always came through Ms. Kellen? 22 Q. And who would they be? 23 A. Or from the office in New York. Lesley, 23 A. Like I said, they were the pilots, Larry 24 his secretary, or somebody else, the comptroller, 24 Bisosky, George, and I don't remember the flight 25 the architect, any lawyer. 25 engineer, and he will have two girlfriends. | — Page 27 Page 29 1 Q. Lawyer, what kind of instructions would 1 Q. The pilot would have two girlfriends? 2. you get from lawyers? 2 A. Mr. Epstein. This is all people coming 3 A. We used to have a lot of time, for 3. in the plane together. 4 instance, the dock construction, you need to have 4 Q. Right. What do you mean by girlfriends? 5 a lot of permits in Palm Beach so they were there 5 A. Friends, you know, that he was always 6 for that reason. 6 having friends that he will befriend in New York, 7 Q. Okay. Now, so you would interact with 7 Idon't know, or some other places. 8 the staff from New York and that would include I 8 But I was just told -- my concern was how 9 think you said Lesley? 9 many people I have to feed, how many cars do I 10 A. Lesley, Bella. 10 need to transport these people from the airport to li Q. What was Lesley's position? 11 the house, and to arrange accommodations in the 12 A. Lesley is the secretary, secretary to Mr. 12 house. 13 Epstein. 13 Q. What about Sarah Kellen, did she travel 14 Q. Okay. Is that Lesley Groff? 14 with him? 15 A. I believe it was, I don't remember the 15 A. Yes. 16 last name. 16 Q. So she was on the plane? 17 Q. Béla, WhO Was Bella? A Yes: 18 A. Bella was the assistant comptroller. 18 MR. CRITTON: Form. 19 Q. Anyone else that you dealt with in New 19 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: 20 York? 20 Q. And Ms. Maxwell? 21 A. Doug Shadow was the architect and he used | 21 MR. CRITTON: Form. 22 to come to the house in a regular basis because we | 22 THE WITNESS: No, she will have different 23 used to have a lot of projects going on. 23 plane. 24 Q. Okay. Would you get advance notice when | 24 BY MR. MERMELSTEIN: Mr. Epstein was going to arrive in Palm Beach? 25 Q. Okay. 8 (Pages 26 to 29) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000254