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Case 18-2868, Document 283, 08/09/2019, 2628241, Page386 of 883 Page 250 Would you know the name if I said it? Yeah, Bill Riley? Yes. Okay. Have you ever spoken with an investigator Paul Lavery? A. Could be, I'm not sure. Q. Okay. So Bill Riley came by your house personally? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. And how long did you meet with him? 12 A. Five minutes. He gave me his card, he 13 gave me Mr. Critton telephone number, he said 14 don't talk to Mr. Goldberger. 15 Q. Did he tell you why you should call Mr. 16 Critton? 17 A. No. I assume that he was not on the case 18 anymore, but I didn't ask questions but -- 19 Q. You assumed that who wasn't on the case 20 anymore? 21 A. Mr. Goldberger, Jack Goldberger. 22 Q. Okay. But what I'm asking you, I guess, 23 is did this investigator, Mr. Riley, tell you why 24 it was important for you to call any attorney 25 that's associated with Mr. Epstein, why was that OPere WAN DUAWNEH et BWNRFOWANDMNAWNHE 15 ee a Page 252 A. We discuss -- he asked me a lot of questions, obviously he didn’t know a lot of things about the case, and I told him who I was, what I did in the house. Q. He told you he didn't know a lot about the case? A. No, no, no. He asked me questions about so I got the feeling that Mr. Critton didn't know as much as other lawyers. Q. Okay. Did you tell him what you told us here today? A. No. He asked me tell the truth, you know, just go over there, you know, he advise me like you're on your own, Alfredo, just tell the truth, you know. He didn't give me any advice. He paid for my gas. Thank you very much. And that's it, you know. The main thing I wanted to have a lawyer on my side but then I keep going to the first instance when my wife told me you don't need a lawyer, and I'm here today to say that, I'm here, I'm speaking the truth. Q. Okay. You mentioned there were five or six computers in the house? A. Yes. Page 251 1 important? 2 A. He didn't say that. He didn't say that. 3 He just said that get in touch and that's it. 4 Because I said what am I going to do, because I 5 said I thought this was -- you know, but I didn't 6 know I was going to be subpoena. And like I said 7 in the beginning of this deposition, I don't have 8 an attorney so I don't have money, first of all, 9 to pay for an attorney. First of all, I don't 10 think I'm in trouble, but every time you hear high 11 powered lawyers you feel intimidated so I said, 12 listen, what am I going to do, and that was my 13 basic question. 14 Q. Okay. So then you spoke with somebody at Mr. Critton's office and arranged to meet with him personally? down with ‘his assistant, the three of us. 19 Q. So it was Mr. Critton, yourself, and 20 somebody else? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. And you sat down for another two hour 23 period of time? 24 A. Yes. Q. And what did you go over in that meeting? Page 253 Q. And do you know what happened to the computers? No. You don't know where they are? (Shakes head.) Nobody has told you? No. You also mentioned there were photographs in the house? A. In the computers in the files. Q. Okay. But there were also still photographs around the house? A, Oh yes, yes. Q. Some of the girls have made the allegation that there were photographs of them nude in the house. Do you remember seeing that? OPOPOP 7 inemosaic. it was one frame with probably 15 pictures, small pictures. MR. CRITTON: Repeat the question back. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Okay. Some of the girls that have lawsuits against Mr. Epstein with allegations similar to the allegations that C. and T. have made, which is that they were underage when Mr. 64 (Pages 250 to 253) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000310