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From: Lawrence Krauss cza
To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com>
Cc: "Nowak, Martin" ctl
lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: currency question
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 21:05:56 +0000
just to provoke some input from Martin.. and it may make a face to face meeting worthwhile... my question is,
if one accepts that there are two (inside vs outside), conflicting forces at work.. the game theory issue then
becomes how to couple these and derive optimal solutions..
LMK
On May 14, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Lawrence Krauss c
wrote:
hmmm.. have to think about this.. it is long accepted that the god myth satisfies some long standing internal
need humans have for either defense against death or need for purpose.. no doubt actions governed by
satisfying that pleasure center... the key question is where inside and outside intersect and cannot both be
satisfied together.. that is where game theory is relevant I think.. how to compromise on satisfying hopes, and
satisfying reality when trying to outsmart a charging lion..
LMK
On May 13, 2015, at 3:47 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
inner domain, goals are self created. mastabatory fantasies. for example. rewards in sub domains, social
physical emotional. , some hard wired food, temp. etc. a continum of hard to self imagined. . adapted for
the outer domain, I environment, .
outer domain subject to laws of physics .
inner domain , biologically yes, but ghosts, beliefs self
deception and delusion, and most importantly hope, all actualized.
It makes little sense to apply an evidenced based system in the inner domain, it is comprised of a non
cummative li grouping, . no symmetry for example. however the image of your fantasy girl conjured up
while you pleasure yourself , is a real to the innner self as the cigarette you smoke afterwards is to the outer
domain.
Inner rewards would have been subject to natural selection, so that random killing in the inner world
would unlikely be adaptive. acts of inner revenge however could blow off steam and save outer world
consequences.
religion acts as one of many proposed belief systems to help construct an inner life. where the unpowerful
are effective. it makes as little sense for it to be a logic system operating in the outer domain as little as a
science based view on the evidence of my fantasy girl. you should find some highly correlated inner and
outer rewards but as many uncorrelated. depression might mean ignoring the outside altogether, retreating
into an inner self in order not to do harm.
the inner life should be normally distributed over subdomains as well as a homgenious popualtion . so that
some in the group receive social pleasure, some only physical. etc.
In the game theory analogy, the reserves both in the inner and outer domain play a substantial role. . there
are many experiments that show that a rational being modulates his reserves so that they last a long time.
only in certain circumstances can you access these reserves on purpose. jet pilots told to hold their hands in
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ice water , until they can't take it pull out in under 150 seconds. however if you tell them to last for 180 to
make the grade 80 percent are capable. . hope meanining purpose. all self created fictions that are selected
for. . there are outward signs , confidnece , smiling , that create an outer group;
religioin is a logic system that intersects that of science .ie being kind, has benefits in outer as well as inner
domains - as goals are aligned, believing that mohammed rode to heaven on a horse. is ok, if it satiates the
inner self. reduces blood pressure, but unable to withstand the rigor of the outer mathematics. and is
dangerious but so is that blonde, girl that always does as she is asked in your fantasy, . uh oh, you
actually married her.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Lawrence Krauss
> wrote:
will call in a bit.. doing your letter now and other things I should have done yesterday..
p.s. here is my acceptance speech I wrote for the AHA.. you may hate it.. but I was proud of it. Martin's
suggestion may lead to another path.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
On May 13, 2015, at 12:05 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
340 775 2525 its really really good
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Lawrence Krauss <1
> wrote:
no worries.. my problem.. not yours..
doing your letter today.
today is first day I feel ok.. we need to talk again about Martin's idea.. my mind was not working the
other day...
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
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PO Box 871404
On May 13, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
i had a strong view back when. now unsure
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Lawrence Krauss c
wrote:
quick question.. we have been lazy and left money in AUD. in the last 2 days it has shot up 4 cents..
should we transfer the money or expect it to rise further? Any ideas?
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
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Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Assoc. Dir, Beyond Center
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY
College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
School of Earth and Space Exploration
PO Box 871404 I Temoe AZ 85287-1404
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, The ASU Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Assoc. Dir, Beyond Center
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY
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School of Earth and Space Exploration
PO Box 871404 I Tem e AZ 85287-1404
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