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From: Peter Thiel a>
To: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW:
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:44:46 +0000
Jeff -- much longer discussion, but not sure I even made my questions clear:
(1). I don't question that there is a line of evolutionary thinking under which deception is highly adaptive (and in
this sense, it is quite compatible with the findings of science). I meant it more as a question of the sociology of
science: If there is a lot of deception in science, then there are a lot of fake scientists trying to get government
grant money and thereby replace the real scientists. I think this is a pretty big phenomenon and seriously
underestimated.
(2). The related question of whether the amount of deception goes up or down over time is not about
evolutionary biology (since I assume our evolutionary nature doesn't change that quickly), but more about
politics and technology. Thus, if there are better ways of detecting deception, then there may be less taking place
(the cost/benefit calculus just shifts). And perhaps conversely, if there is a stronger government, then perhaps it
will be able to get away with more deception (think fascist/communist propaganda, or Orwell's 1984) and will
find it easier to pretend that it is solving problems than actually to solve problems.
--Peter
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briefly, trivers and I share the same belief in the major role of deception. - a tool to protect or conquer free
energy.. in essence if the predator can read your algorithm, you are easy food . so deception is the first line of
defense as it usually the cheapest. if a prey knows its own algorithm it is open to interrogation. so nature hides it
from the" self'. Deceptive self confidence is also a winning game strategy. Ants engage in the practise of
mimetic. camouflage. , false direction. etc. To some extent, so do most viruses. ie since HIV clearly masquerades
itself as a unit of self. your question re is deception increasing, - yes as fast as methods of detection. note I
assume you are awake
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