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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 204-4 Filed 04/16/21 Page1of6 February 11, 2021 Call with Amanda Kramer Present on Conference Call: e AUSAs Lara Pomerantz & Maurene Comey e FBI Special Agent Amanda Young e Amanda Kramer e Covington & Burling LLP General Counsel, Steve Anthony AK’s recollections regarding February 29, 2016 Meeting: e AK confirmed the handwritten notes sent to AK by LP were AK’s own notes from the February 29, 2016 meeting. e In advance of the meeting, AK remembers Pete Skinner reaching out to AK and asking if he could come in to present on a potential case with some other attorneys. AK doesn’t recall how Skinner contacted AK. Skinner was at Boies Schiller at the time, Skinner and AK are friends and were in the SDNY USAO together. At this time, AK was the Human Trafficking Coordinator and believes she was also the Project Safe Childhood Coordinator. e Meeting took place in a conference room at 1 St. Andrews Plaza USAO SDNY. Pete Skinner, Brad Edwards, Stan Pottinger, and AK were at the meeting. o AK doesn’t recall what each attorney’s role was, but her notes say that they represented Virginia Roberts. AK also understood that Edwards was involved in representing multiple individuals in a civil litigation involving the CVRA, but AK is not certain of that. o AK understood that Skinner or his colleagues at Boies were representing Virginia Roberts. AK doesn’t know if Skinner was involved in representing Roberts. o Brad Edwards did most of the talking during the meeting. o AK recalls that Pete Skinner spoke a little bit, but AK doesn’t recall what, if anything, he said on substance. AK doesn’t remember what he said. e AK understood the purpose of the meeting to be the attorneys presenting information that they believed or suggested should be the subject of a criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. o AK understood that the attorneys were advocating that the Jeffrey Epstein case should be investigated by SDNY. e LP directed AK to references to lawsuits on pages 4 and 7 of AK’s notes from the meeting, and asked what AK recalls about what civil lawsuits she learned of during the meeting. o AK remembers there was a CVRA lawsuit that was mentioned. o AK remembers that there were other civil lawsuits mentioned. Aside from what is in AK’s notes, AK has no memory of what those lawsuits were about or the nature of those lawsuits. o AK does not have an independent memory of the Guiffre v. Maxwell lawsuit being mentioned, and her memory is not refreshed from looking at the notes. DOJ-OGR-00003525