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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-7 Filed 01/03/24 Page 6 of 9 Page 166 Page 168 1 written down anywhere? 1 for now we'll call it a massage -- as well as 2 A. No. 2. anybody who brought that person over to the house, 3 Q. It's my understanding that C. and T. 3 they would both get paid cash. Are you familiar 4 either came to his house alone to visit with Mr. 4 with that? 5 Epstein or brought other girls in their age group 5 MR. CRITTON: Form. 6 to Mr. Epstein. 6 THE WITNESS: No. 7 Were you familiar with that type of 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 recruitment process of girls bringing other girls? 8 Q. If C. brought another gir! over to the 9 MR. CRITTON: Form. 9 house and C. stayed downstairs but this other girl 10 THE WITNESS: Yes. 10 went upstairs with Mr. Epstein, which one would 11 BY MR. EDWARDS: 11 you pay? 12 Q. Can you tell me more about what you know | 12 A. I don't know because I was told who to 13 about girls bringing other girls that are 13 pay. 14 relatively the same age to come to Jeffrey 14 Q. And Sarah Kellen always told you? 15 Epstein's house and to use your words, have a good | 15 A. Sarah told me pay so and so. 16 time? 16 Q. So if we were going to ask anybody else 17 MR. CRITTON: Form. 17 about the exact method in terms of who would get 18 THE WITNESS: It's hard to know who they 18 paid and for what, who would the people be? I 19 knew. But I think that was -- they feel 19 mean, other than Mr. Epstein who else could we ask 20 better themselves when they're in a group 20 these questions? 21 than going by themselves, but I don’t know 21 A. Sarah. 22 somebody recruiting. 22 Q. Sarah Kellen? 23 BY MR. EDWARDS: 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Okay. And you've talked about, at least 24 Q. She would know this? 25 referred to yourself I believe to the police and 25 A. Yes. Page 167 Page 169 1 as well today as a human ATM machine. Right? 1 Q. What about Ghislaine Maxwell? 2 MR. CRITTON: Form. 2 MR. CRITTON: Form. 3 THE WITNESS: Something like that. I was 3 THE WITNESS: You're talking about the 4 supposed to carry cash at all times. 4 boss. I don't know. 5 BY MR. EDWARDS: 5 BY MR. EDWARDS: 6 Q. One of the primary reasons why you 6 Q. To your knowledge was Ghislaine Maxwell 7 carried cash was to pay the girls in this age 7 aware of these girls that are in the age group of 8 group of C. and T. for whatever happened at the 8 C.andT. coming to Jeffrey Epstein's house to 9 house. Right? 9 have a good time? 10 MR. CRITTON: Form. 10 MR. CRITTON: Form. 11 THE WITNESS: Yes. 11 THE WITNESS: I have to say something. 12. BY MR. EDWARDS: 12 Mrs. Maxwell called me and told me not to 13 Q. That's a fair statement. Right? 13 ever discuss or contact her again in a 14 MR. CRITTON: Form, 14 threaten way. 15 THE WITNESS: Yes. 15 BY MR. EDWARDS: 16 BY MR. EDWARDS: 16 Q. When was this? 17a orays And wren C,, Ri 18 example, would bring somebody else to the house, | 18 the friends for a job and she told me this, but, 19 did you pay C. as well as whomever she brought to |19 you know, I feel intimidated and so I want to keep 20 the house, pay them both? 20 her out. 21 A. No, I pay only one person. 21 Q. What exactly did she say? First of all, 22 Q. Okay. My understanding, and tell me if 22 was this a telephone call? 23 _ this is wrong or you can corroborate this, is that 23 A. Yes, she was in New York. 24 Mr. Epstein would pay the girl that was actually 24 Q. She called you on your cell phone? 25 performing whatever was happening in the room -- | 25 A. Yes. 43 (Pages 166 to 169) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000289 GIUFFRE000978