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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-7 Filed 01/03/24 Page 7 of 9 Page 172 A. She said I forbid you that you're going to be -- that I will be sorry if I contact any of Q. Okay. Other than you will be sorry if you contact any of my friends again did she say anything else about what you know about Mr. Epstein and/or what goes on at his house? A. She said something like don't open your mouth or something like that. But you have to understand, I'm a civil humble, I came as an immigrant to service people, and right now you feel a little -- I'm 55 and I'm afraid. First of all, I don't have a job, but I'm glad this is on tape because I don't want nothing to happen to me. This is the way they treat you, better do this and you shut up and don't talk to nobody and -- Q. When you say this is the way they treat, who specifically are you talking about when you Q. And usually when you say the word they, you're not only talking about one person -- Q. Are you also putting Jeffrey Epstein in Page 173 THE WITNESS: I didn't talk to him Q. What's the reason why if you were his head of security that you wouldn't have more THE WITNESS: He wanted that way, you know, so, yeah, I have to talk to Sarah, Sarah is not available talk to Lesley in New York. He didn't want to be disturbed. Q. Even while you were in the same house with him he still had other people you could talk Q. When you were fired you were not fired Q. Okay. But it was for upsetting him for Page 170 1 Q. Is this the cell phone that was issued to 1 precisely did she say? 2 you by Mr. Epstein? 2 3 A. No, it was my personal phone. I was 3 4 already -- 4 her friends again. 5 Q. Gone? § 6 A. Yeah, this is three, four months down the 6 7 road. 7 8 Q. So if you left in -- 8 9 A. February, March -- it was May or June. 9 10 Q. Of 2005? 10 11 A. Yes. il 12 And you got a call from Ghislaine Maxwell 12 13 out of the blue? 13 14 A. Yes. 14 15 Q. And do you know what prompted that 15 16 telephone call? 16 17 A. Because I contact somebody in New York to | 17 18 geta job. 18 19 Q. Who was that person? 19 20 A. I contact Jean-Luc and I contact Eva, the 20 say the word they? 21 Swedish girl, she used to be very good friends 21 A. Maxwell. 22 with Mr. Epstein because she asked me she need 22 23 somebody in New York. 23 24 Q, What does Eva do? 24 A. Wealthy people. 25 A. Eva was a model many years ago and he 25 Page 171 1 married -- Eva is the mother of the girl who was 1 that category? 2 onthe wall. 2 MR. CRITTON: Form. 3 Q. Who is on the wall of Mr. Epstein's 3 4 house? 4 directly most of the time. 5 A. Yeah. 5 BY MR. EDWARDS: 6 Q. Allright. There is a younger girl model 6 7 that's on the wall of Mr. Epstein's house and this 7 8 lady Eva is her mother? 8 direct contact with him? Why is that? 9 A. Yes. 9 MR. CRITTON: Form. 10 Q. And at some point in time you called her 10 11 __ in New York to get a job? 11 12 A. That's right. 12 13 Q. And you also called Jean-Luc Bernell? 13 14 That's his name. Right? 14 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 A. Jean-Luc, yeah, I don't remember his last 15 16 name. 16 17 Q. Does that sound familiar to you, Jean-Luc 18 Bernell? 18 A. Yeah 19 A. Yeah. 19 20 Q. What did Eva and/or Jean-Luc say about 20 directly by him? 21 employing you? 21 A. No. 22 A. No, they said they're going to find out 22 Q. It was through somebody else? 23 and obviously the first thing they did was talk to 23 A. Ms. Maxwell. 24 Mrs. Maxwell. 24 25 Q. She made a telephone call to you and what | 25 taking the wrong car? 44 (Pages 170 to 173) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000290 GIUFFRE000979