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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-7 Filed 01/03/24 Page 8 of 9 pd Page 174 Page 176 1 A. Yes. 1 this. Because I went through -- the first 2 Q. Okay. Ever since this communication that 2 time I went to the deposition I was in Palm 3. Ms. Maxwell made to you where she called you 3 Beach and I did my duty, I mean, I tell what 4 sometime in May or June of 2005, and have you felt |} 4 I know, but now I know there is more 5 threatened? 5 digging, all I want is this to be to get on 6 A. Yes. 6 with my normal life and stuff. 7 MR. CRITTON: Form. 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 Q. So when you come here today to testify, 9 Q. Have you felt reluctant to come forward 9 your main objective is to get back to your normal 10 and give truthful, honest, and full disclosure of 10 life and get out of the spotlight of this case. 11 all information that you know about this case? 11 Yes? 12 MR. CRITTON: Form. 12 A. Yes. 13 THE WITNESS: I said this off the record 13 Q. And in doing so have you held back some 14 but I will say it on the record, being in 14 of the details that you know about that happened 15 the Epstein case for me resulted in two 15 in this case to remove yourself from the 16 years I have -- I won't bring the names but 16 spotlight? 17 I was in the third interview to get hired as 17 MR. CRITTON: Form. 18 a household manager in Palm Beach and they 18 THE WITNESS: No, sir. 19 told me you are the Jeffrey Epstein guy. 19 BY MR. EDWARDS: 20 Not in the sense I did something wrong 20 Q. Okay. Have you ever talked to Ghislaine 21 because of the scandal, so they shun the job 21 Maxwell after that telephone call where she called 22 away from me. And so I was afraid that -- 22 you and you felt threatened? 23 this is very powerful people and one phone 23 A. No. 24 call and you finish, so I'm the little guy. 24 Q. Okay. So going back to where we started 25 Even I'm wearing a tie I'm a -- I'm talking 25 here was, does Ghislaine Maxwell have knowledge of Page 175 Page 177 L from my heart. This is the way it is. 1 the girls that would come over to Jeffrey 2 BY MR. EDWARDS: 2. Epstein's house that are in roughly the same age 3 Q. I feel for you, I'm sorry that you have 3. group as C. and T. and to have a good time as you 4 to be in this position. 4 put it? 5 MR. CRITTON: Move to strike this. s MR. CRITTON: Form, 6 BY MR. EDWARDS: 6 THE WITNESS: Yes. 7 Q. Well, when you applied for these jobs and 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 they turned you down and gave you the reason that | 8 Q. And what was her involvement and/or 9 you're the person involved in the Jeffrey Epstein 9 knowledge about that? 10 scandal, was it that they are associated or 10 MR. CRITTON: Form. 11 friends with Jeffrey Epstein or is it that you 11 THE WITNESS: She knew what was going on. 12 have information and you have this confidentiality 12 BY MR. EDWARDS: 13 but you're revealing some certain information that | 13 Q. You referred to her at one point in time 14 Mr. Epstein would not like? 14 as Jeffrey Epstein's companion. But then later on 15 MR. CRITTON: Form. 15 you said that if she flew she flew on a different 16 THE WITNESS: Both. 16 airplane and oftentimes or sometimes she slept in 18 Q. Both? 18 unusual to you? 19 A. Both. 19 MR. CRITTON: Form. 20 Q. And since then given what you just told 20 THE WITNESS: It was odd but, I mean, and 21 us about these people being very powerful, are you | 21 again, everything is odd in Palm Beach. 22 afraid for your life given the fact that you're 22 BY MR. EDWARDS: 23 involved to some extent in this case? 23 Q. Okay, I don't mean to laugh. 24 MR. CRITTON: Form. 24 A. Mr. Epstein fly to Jet Aviation, she fly 25 THE WITNESS: I just start thinking about 25 to Galaxy Aviation, but they never flew the same 45 (Pages 174 to 177) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000291 GIUFFRE000980