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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-12 Filed 01/03/24 Page 21 of 179 Page 20 A. No, I only -- to you, I said that to you. I just saw her as perhaps someone who may not have had a strong family, and they took her under their wing. Q. Now, you mentioned remembering going to Atlantic City. Did you go -- where did you go after Atlantic City? A. Once we landed in New York, Emmy and I went in a car and drove around the city for a half hour or so, just to see some of the city. Q. And then where did you go after doing the sightseeing? A. We went to the townhouse on East 71st. And can you describe that location for me? A. Sure. Between Madison and Park. I think the address might have been 9 East 71st Street. Q. And who owned that home? As far as I knew, Epstein. A. Q. Can you describe for me physically what -- A. Palatial. When you walk up, it looks like a normal door to a townhouse, and when you walk in -- I thought there were four floors. I heard there were seven floors. I didn't see them all. Q. And do you recall who, if anybody, was at MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES