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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-12 Filed 01/03/24 Page 57 of 179 Page 56 like a beach house. Q. And when you got there, do you remember meeting other people while you were there that first time? A. I remember other people being in the home. I don't really remember who was there. Q. Do you remember meeting, like, a butler or -- A. Potentially, a chef. Someone in the kitchen. Maybe a house manager, yeah. Q. What was your impression of this other woman that was with Ms. Maxwell at this time? A. Zero. She left zero impression on me. Q. Age, height, hair color? Nothing? A. I want to say she was brunette. Age, 20s. Yeah. Q. And you were going for the purposes of checking out potentially working at this job? A. Yes. Q. It sounds like you met Jeffrey Epstein that first time that you did go to the house, right? MS. McCAWLEY: Objection. THE WITNESS: I believe I either met him that time or the next time. I can't recall. MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES