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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-12 Filed 01/03/24 Page 81 of 179 Page 80 Q. Did she tell you anything about Ghislaine during that walk-about? A. No. Q. And then you all traveled on to New York that same night? Yes. How long were you in New York for It was maybe two nights. And where did you sleep at night? A. I slept in one of the guest rooms townhouse on 71st Street. Q. And did you stay in the same room Virginia? A. No. Do you know where she stayed? Q A. No. Q All right. And then when you got into Manhattan, how did it come to be that you were doing some sightseeing? A. Well, they knew that I had never been, so I believe Jeffrey asked the driver and Emmy just to drive me around to see the Empire State Building. That's all I remember. It was late. It was dark. MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES