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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-12 Filed 01/03/24 Page 93 of 179 Page 92 celebration or cake with candles. It was just another day. Q. You said that the Virgin Islands were a part of that second trip, as well? A. Yes. Q. And do you remember Ghislaine being part of the Virgin Islands the second time? A. Yes. That's when she called -- went to bed and kissed us all on the head and called us her children. Q. Who were the other participants in that session? That's who -- I don't recall who was want to say that Nadia was. But Virginia was not there? Virginia was not there. Q. Do you recall the point in time in which Virginia went away? A. Sort of. After the trip to New York, I was given her phone number to call. And I remember one time I tried to get ahold of her. Her boyfriend answered. A boyfriend, I would assume, and he sounded like he was high. And I couldn't find out where she was. And then from there on, she was out of the picture. MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES