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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-12 Filed 01/03/24 Page 122 of 179 Page 121 defamation. Q. And do you know what Virginia said about Ghislaine? A. That Ghislaine recruited her. Q. Do you know anything else that Virginia said about Ghislaine? A. Only what was spoken to me. Q. And I should clarify. Don't tell me anything your lawyer has conveyed to you. A. Exactly. That's all I know. I've met with Virginia once last summer. Q. Okay. Tell me about that. A. She -- there was a moderator between us, like an investigator. And she was in Palm Beach. And it was more about Jeffrey. It was less about Ghislaine. I don't remember specifically about Ghislaine at all. Q. So you met with Virginia and an investigator at the same time? A. Yes. Q. And they were what, talking to you about Jeffrey in what context? MS. McCAWLEY: Objection. THE WITNESS: Basically, they were trying to find people that would help her get her MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES