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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL
CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE No.502008CA037319XXXXMB AB
B.B.
Plaintiff,
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JEFFREY EPSTEIN
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Defendants.
DEFENDANTS' MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST SPENCER
KUVIN, ESQUIRE, AND ALTERNATIVE MOTION TO IDENTIFY
HEARING BEFORE THE HONORABLE
DONALD HAFELE
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Palm Beach County Courthouse
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
8:12 - 8:35 a.m.
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APPEARANCES:
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On behalf of the Plaintiff, B.B.:
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SPENCER T. KUVIN, ESQUIRE
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On behalf' of the PLIintiff, LM., EW,
Jane Doc No. I:
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BRADLEY J. ®WARDS, ESQUIRE
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THE BAILIFF: Please rise. Circuit Court
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is in session. Honorable Donald Hafele
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presiding.
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THE COURT: Good morning, everybody.
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MR. CR1TTON: Morning, Judge.
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MR. KUVIN: Morning. Judge.
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THE COURT: All right. Much of my evening
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last night was taken up by reading this
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material and following the conclusion of one
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jury trial and the anticipated beginning of
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another one after 8:45% this morning. I'm not
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in a posture right now to listen to a whole lot
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of argument here. I have spent several hours
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of my own time reviewing these materials last
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night.
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And I can tell you, I will tell you a
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couple of things before hearing any argument if
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any is actually needed. The accusations that
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are being leveled against both sides, and at
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this juncture, primarily Mr. Kuvin, if they are
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of any merit, in my view really have their
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place in Florida Bar proceedings as opposed to
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before this Court.
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But I will suggest a couple of things,
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number one, the press, both print and
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audio-visual have jobs to do. And I recognize
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that they have their respective positions as
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well. The more this case is tried or pre-tried
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before the press, the more likely it is that
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we're not going to be able to seat a fair and
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impartial jury in Palm Beach County.
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The key word that I think needs to be
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addressed and to be emphasized is one of
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respect. First and foremost respect for the
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entity of our judicial system; respect for each
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individual and their right to a fair trial;
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respect for each other as members privileged to
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practice law in the State of Florida, and
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understanding that both sides and all sides are
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involved in sensitive, embarrassing, difficult
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situations.
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And when we lose the respect for the
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system, that being the judicial system, when we
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lose our respect for each other as practicing
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lawyers and members in goods standing of the
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Florida Bar and leaders here in Palm Beach
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County as it concerns Bar activities, we erode
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a confidence of the public and we bring down
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our system of justice. I will not be a party
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to that.
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I don't think at this juncture that I have
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any legal grounds to sanction anyone. And in a
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careful review of the papers that even if
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Mr. Kuvin's conduct is sanctionable, that the
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quid pro quo, so to speak, would be to publish
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the name of the Plaintiff as an alternative as
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a sanction for any such conduct.
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But I think that again the main focus here
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has to be one of respect. Mr. Critton.
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MR. CRTTTON: May it please the Court.
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Your Honor, the purpose of the position that I
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filed on behalf of my client directed to both
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Mr. Kuvin and the alternate motion to identify
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was basically to secure my client's -- to try
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to preserve my client's right to fundamental
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fairness and the right to ultimately obtain a
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fair trial here in Palm Beach County.
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This Court has told us on more than one
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occasion that each party, whatever the facts
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and circumstances, they are entitled to
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fundamental fairness. Both parties are to be
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treated with respect and both parties either
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before this Court or a juaff entitled to a
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fair trial free of prejudice and bias from any
poisoning of the jury pool.
In this particular instance, the purpose
of the motion and it was directed in large part
to the publishing of the, providing of the
video to Mr. Lambiet of the deposition of, the
very, very, brief, the two-question deposition
of Mr. Epstein which if questioned by the press
and merely saying, gee, there was a deposition,
he walked out it turns out on advice of
counsel, not at Mr. Epstein's request, on
advice of counsel he walked out of a
deposition, that deposition would never be an
admissible document
There is nothing that occurred at that
deposition other than the name and then the
question about, Mr. Epstein, is it true you
have an egg-shaped whatever, that would never
be admissible at that point in particular where
the deposition was terminated.
Therefore, the purpose of giving the
deposition to Mr. Lambiet had, had no purpose
other than it was a media play to try to
prejudice, that effectively may well prejudice
my right to, my client's right to a fair trial
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going to punish all 30 of you.
In this instance Mr. Kuvin's response was
in large part directed to other lawyers in
other circumstances completely unrelated to the
B.B. case.
And this case, this motion and focus
respectfully to the Court is on B.B., not on
what else has happened in this case. There is,
I have never made nor has anyone in my firm
made any, not one single comment about B.B. in
the press that I can find or that I could
reference.
There was an article Sunday in the Post, a
big article about Mr. Epstein. And a number of
conunents that were attributed to myself and
were attributed to Mr. Luttier of my firm.
I was unaware of the article. I never
commented. I was unaware that the article was
going in, in there. Everything that was in the
article related to documents that were on file
with the Court.
And therefore I respectfully suggest to
the Court and, and I would remind the Court —
not remind the Court — or remind the Court but
in a nice way, is that Mr. Edwards who is here,
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and that is the issue.
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and myself were able to agree after the public,
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And the other issue that I raised with
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after the publication by Mr. Kuvin of the
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regard to Mr. Kuvin's seeking media attention,
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Epstein deposition is an issue that came in
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there is a First Amendment right. I am well
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front of this Court with regard to a concern
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aware of that under the circumstances, so I am,
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that Mr. Edwards expressed about whether or not
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I am aware of that.
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we were going to publish the deposition of LM.
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I am also aware and I am conscious of how
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If the Court will recall and what the
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both this Court and Judge Marra and as well
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Court directed to both Mr. Edwards and I at
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Linnea Johnson in terms trying to control
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that time, and in fact we entered into an
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discovery ordering these are the parameters, if
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agreement and an order that said, look, neither
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you go outside the parameters, this is what 1
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the deposition of L.M. nor the deposition of
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am going to do. And Judge Johnson gave wide
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Mr. Epstein will be used for any purpose, that
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berth to discovery. In some instances she said
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is the video deposition. The transcript can be
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I don't want you do that. She's controlling
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filed in accordance with that. If you want to
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that.
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use the video deposition, folks, you come to
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And in some instances wherein this
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me. These are who you can show the video to
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instance where we terminated the deposition of
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under the circumstances. But you entered an
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Mr. Epstein, the Court said I don't want you
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order and I think it was in October. It was
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doing that under the circumstances.
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after and as a result of what happened with
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And so, the focus here is not on my
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regard to Mr. Kuvin.
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conduct or on somebody's conduct. In this case
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So my, my focus here is solely on what
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it's on Mr. Kuvin's conduct. And it's not like
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Mr. Kuvin did solely with regard to the video
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elementary school where the teacher says where
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deposition, of the two-question video
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little Johnny is out of line and the teacher
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deposition. It served no purpose. That
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says, look, little Johnny made a mistake; I am
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deposition would never be admissible; under no
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circumstances was it filed in court. And its
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sole purpose was to both create a media frenzy
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and interest.
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And as this Court is probably aware and as
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we referenced in our motion, it ended up on
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You'Ibbe under the circumstances and it was a
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very popular item.
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So I }mow the Court has spent a lot of
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time reading the various information that we
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provided. And based on what the Court
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indicated I am not going to belabor it other
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than to say that the conduct is, is that of
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Mr. Kuvin, the conduct here is with regard to
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him providing a copy of that video deposition
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to Mr. Lambiet under the circumstances and then
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it ends up so that anyone, any time, any Tom,
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Dick, and Harry, can cue onto the, onto
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Mr. Larnbiets web site and cue onto the
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deposition which has no probative value. Its
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only value was sensationalism and media frenzy,
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and with regard to someone can check on
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Mr. Kuvin and then hit his web site or find out
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who he was.
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Bitterman case whereas an attorney has acted in
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video has a distinct impact under the
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circumstances. The people see it. It fuels
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the media frenzy. You will see it on Channel
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5, Channel 12, or Channel 25. And it serves no
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purpose in this Court or in this case other
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than to prejudice one side or the other.
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And with regard to the identity of B.B., I
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will just rely on, under the circumstances she
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and her lawyer, she and/or her lawyer have
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allowed this case to be tried in the media.
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With regard to B.S. I have never, as I
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referenced earlier, I have never brought up
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B.B. It's not my conduct or my finds conduct.
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It's Mr. ICuvin's conduct under the
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circumstances.
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And I will rest with whatever the Court's
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decision is with regards to the identity of
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B.B. But there are other things that I could
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say but in regard to the time that you have
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spent, I will turn it over to Mr. Kuvin.
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MR. KUVIN: In regard to the Court's prior
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statement and with respect of the time Your
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Honor has spent reviewing this motion, I don't
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want to take up more of the Court's time. 1
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will address the video so the record is clear.
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bad faith, and what Mr. Kuvin, separate and
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apart from any Bar issue — in fact I well
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recognize that this Court nor any court does
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not have the jurisdiction to punish under the
Bar rules. That's left to the Florida Bar as I
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understand, or actually the Supreme Cowl under
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the circumstances. I am not asking for that,
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but it was bad faith for Mr. Kuvin to have done
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it under the Bitterman case.
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All the Court is saying is I am not going
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to tolerate that conduct just as you suggested
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to Mr. Edwards. And I know we were agreeab:e
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to not posting any video depositions, find that
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the conduct of Mr. Kuvin under the
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circumstances was in bad faith, inappropriate,
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and grant the sanction of attorneys fees
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against Mr. Kuvin that related to the filing
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and the arguing of this motion, directing that,
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just as you did in the L.M. and E.W. cases,
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video depositions not only of the parties but
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also of witnesses not be filed in the Court
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file, not be shared with, other than the
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attorneys, parties, and experts under the
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circumstances and not file it with the Court.
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aware late last night, specifically reading the
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Gentile case from the United States Supreme
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Court, what struck with me is reading Justice
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Rehnquist, and this is a case involving an
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attorney that went to the press. He actually
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held a press conference six months before the
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trial was actually to take place.
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And it was the Florida Bar — I'm sorry,
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it was a Nevada Bar opinion where the Nevada
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Bar sanctioned that criminal defense lawyer for
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holding that press conference.
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The United States Supreme Court reversed
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that opinion. And what's important about that,
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important is when I read it last night, Justice
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Rehnquist's opinion when it says an attorney's
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duties do not begin inside the courtroom door.
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implications of a legal proceeding for the
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client. Just as an attorney may recommend a
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plea bargain or civil settlement to avoid the
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adverse consequences of a possible loss after
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trial, so too an attorney may take reasonable
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steps to defend a client's reputation and
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reduce the adverse consequences of indictment
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including an attempt to demonstrate in the
court of pubic opinion that the client does not
deserve to be tried.
How I respond to that --
THE COURT: Excuse me, just a moment,
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MR. KUVIN: Yes.
THE COURT: I understand that. And if an
offensive was logged against your client by
Defendant in a manner that would have either
identified her contrary to court order and/or
the protection that had already been put in
place relative to her anonymity, or there would
have been statements even by way of her
initials by the defense that would have
implicated her in some type of untoward conduct
that would have been publicized, certainly 1
think that in that Gentile case there was the
attempt by the lawyer to defend the reputation
of the client.
What Mr. Critton is commenting on is what
is perceived to be taking the offensive, not
defending one's client's reputation but, in
fact, sharing with someone who is a gossip
columnist with the Palm Beach Post a video
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Mr. Epstein's attorneys were the ones that
took the offensive and not specifically —
excuse me, specifically attacking all victims.
While Mr. Critton does a very good job of
coming in and trying to parse out each
individual girl, B.B., L.M., E.W., Jane Doe
No. I, there are at least 14 current ongoing
civil proceedings. And according to arrest
records which were released by the Palm Beach
Post absent of any attorney just as of
yesterday, possibly hundreds of victims of
Mr. Epstein of underage girls, hundreds.
He and his attorneys have attacked all the
victims as a group. They have not disseminated
between whether it's B.B. or E.W.
Therefore, every girl who comes before
this court in a civil proceeding is tainted by
the conduct and statements that are made by
Mr. Epstein's attorneys, both criminal, civil,
and the press.
THE COURT: So, respectfully does that
justify the publication to Mr. Lambiet of
Mr. Epstein's aborted deposition by way of
videotape?
MR. KUVIN: Respectfully that deposition
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deposition of the Defendant where nothing was
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said to my knowledge about B.B., nothing was
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legal difference, none cited by Mr. Critton,
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said relative to her reputation or standing in
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none found by myself between a deposition and a
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this community but simply for whatever
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video. Both are synonomotts to each other. The
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publicity could be gained from the short
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deposition was on file with the Court prior to
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any contact and albeit this contact Mr. Lambiet
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THE COURT: The media somehow obtained the
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Mr. Epstein's criminal lawyers and his civil
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MR. KUVIN: The media —
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lawyers such as: These women are liars; we
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THE COURT: Let me finish, please.
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have established that it was a childish
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performance by the Palm Beach Police
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THE COURT: The media somehow obtained the
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Department; there were never any victims; he
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video deposition of Mr. Epstein absent your
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never denied girls came to the house but passed
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participation is what you're suggesting to me?
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a polygraph on knowledge of age; that none of
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the girls were minors and their stories were
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not credible; there was never any sex between
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the conclusion of the deposition to find out
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Jeffrey Epstein and underage women according to
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what had happened.
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lead attorney Jack Goldberger from Idaho where
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he was vacationing with his family. He said
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motion for sanctions with a copy of the
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Mr. Epstein absolutely insisted anybody who
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transcript of the deposition in the Court file.
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came to his house was over the age of 18. The
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deposition according to both the ethics
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opinions that were cited by me in my response
as well as the Gentile case. When something is
public record, there is no limitation on a
circulation of that information.
Had Mr. Epstein himself not terminated
that deposition, none of it would have been
public record because there would have been no
need to file it.
So, while I understand the Court's
admonition and I absolutely respect it and I'm
to follow that every day in my practice, this
was not an offensive started by me, but it was
a response to the accusations landed by his
attorneys against all of these women who are
victims of him. But I respect the Court's
opinion and obviously we'll follow that
continually in this case.
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proceedings, it may very well have an opposite
effect to the ultimate outcome.
I think it is best that we do our best
within the confines of the rules and
regulations of the Florida Bar to confine our
COnsircntS to those that are permitted and to not
stray beyond that.
I am not reluctant, as both of you know,
to issue sanctions if I see conduct that is
untoward or unprofessional or that will work to
erode what I believe are the basic principles
of justice, and that is fundamentally the right
to both parties, each party that comes before
this Court, no matter their standing, no matter
their accusations, to a fair trial. And again,
nothing will deter this Court from that
aspiration.
So the motions at this point are denied.
The request for sanctions is denied. The
request in the alternative to identify B.B. is
denied.
I want to again remind each side that the
Court only has a fmite time among its 1750
cases to spend on each case. And I want you to
utilize that time constructively and consistent
THE COURT: All right. Well, I have said
most of what I needed to say already here. And
I do not place my imprimatur on the conduct
that was suggested here relative to the
disbursement of the aborted video deposition of
Mr. Epstein to the press by counsel.
And I am going to order that in this case
as well as any comµlanion cases involving
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Mr. Epstein that absent Court order no
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videotape depositions may be disseminated
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So, please, in the future refrain from
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beyond the lawyers, the parties, and any
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filing these types of motions unless they are
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experts that are involved in the case.
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of critical importance to the progress of this
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I will leave you with the following: That
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case. Anything that needs Florida Bar
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while I respect Justice Rehnquist's statements
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attention should be directed to the Florida
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in the Gentile case and while certain conduct
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may be technically permissible, it does not
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Thank you, Gentlemen, very much for your
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mean that we lose sight of the basic tenets of
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courtesy. Thank you, Madam Court Reporter, as
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justice that is to confine a trier of fact's
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well. I wish everybody a good rest of the
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consideration of this case to what is in this
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week. I know I will be seeing you again later.
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courtroom and what is learned by the trier of
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fact within the confines of the courtroom
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clarification.
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THE COURT: You may proceed with the next
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Most of the time when doing their jobs,
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motion. I see Mr. Silber is here and
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the press takes positions in terms of their
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Mr. Edwards and Mr. Keenan as well.
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recitation of their stories, meaning that what
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you may say, as innocuous as you think it may
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be, could be far more detrimental based upon
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MR. KUVIN: Yes, sir. Your Honor, you
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the totality of the story than you may think
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mentioned not being able to show my client
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your comments are at first blush.
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depositions?
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So, while you may think you are helping
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THE COURT: No, sir. I said the parties
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your respective clients, when it comes to
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MR. KUVIN: Okay.
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MR. KUVIN: The parties, the parties'
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attorneys and experts, and absent court order,
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| File Size | 1310.5 KB |
| OCR Confidence | 85.0% |
| Has Readable Text | Yes |
| Text Length | 24,716 characters |
| Indexed | 2026-02-12T13:51:58.759351 |
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