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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:15-cv-Agtes? Bland CourhtReporting Be Vitheo? /EnAc.Page 13 of 27 We've had lots of bonfires there. Q Did you ever ride in a helicopter with Ghislaine Maxwell acting as pilot of the helicopter? A Yes. Q Who else was on the flight? A I've been on the helicopter with her plenty of times. I can't mention how many people were on the -- on the helicopter at the same time. Q How many times? A I don't know. Do you have helicopter records that you could show me? Q I'm asking you how many times you were on the helicopter with Ghislaine Maxwell acting as the pilot -- A It's impossible for me to answer the question without having the actual physical records in front of me. Q I'm asking you to look into your memory and tell me how many times you recall being ona helicopter with Ghislaine Maxwell at the pilot seat? A There is no number I can give you. There's plenty of times I've been on her helicopter. Q Where did you go from and to on a helicopter? A I believe it was -- don't quote me on this VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 215