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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GonettReporsin g fe Wines /Erc.Page 26 of 89 Page 93 Page 95 1 A He didn't hand me the tickets at that 1 _ shortly before my birthday, but not my birthday. 2 time, but he told me that he had booked me in for 2 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) Okay. And he told you 3 massage training at an institute in Chiang Mai. 3 he had booked you tickets to go to Thailand, right? 4 Q_ And he told you he had booked you tickets 4 A Correct. 5 to a massage training in Chiang Mai, Thailand 5 Q_ All right. So you remember one birthday 6 sometime before your actual 19th birthday? 6 at which you received makeup, bracelet and earrings 7 MR. EDWARDS: Form. 7 and one birthday at which you received tickets to 8 Q_ (BY MS. MENNINGER) Did I get that right? 8 Thailand. 9 A Yes. 9 Do you remember any other birthdays that 10 Q_ Okay. Did he hand you -- 10 you spent with Jeffrey Epstein and/or Ghislaine 11 A Excuse me. 11 Maxwell? 12 Q_ -- hand you anything at that time? 12 A I'm sure there is, but I honestly can't 13 A No, I don't think so. 13 remember what I did for my 18th birthday. 14 Q_ And where were you located when he told 14 Q_ Okay. Well, I'm sorry, did you know for 15 you this about the Thailand massage training? 15 sure that the bracelet, earrings and makeup were from 16 A Jeffrey, Ghislaine and I had just gone 16 your 17th birthday, or do you know? 17. scuba -- not scuba diving, not with the big tanks, 17 A I don't know. 18 but snorkeling with just the mask and the two-piece, 18 Q But you know they were not for your 19 and on Jeffrey's island, by the way. 19 16th birthday, right? 20 And we had gone out for a while. And we 20 A Correct. 21 had come back. And he's got a pier where it's got a 21 Q_ Allright. If I could have you go back to 22 ladder and you climb up. And we were wearing wet 22 Defendant's Exhibit 1, I think. 23 suits. So we were taking off our flippers and our 23 A Defendant's, sorry, Exhibit 1? 24 wet suits and all of our gear. 24 Q. Um-hum. Page 9, either at the bottom or 25 And they said they wanted to sit down and 25 in the upper right-hand corner. Page 94 Page 96 1 talk to me, just the three of us. And he -- first, 1 Do you see that page? 2 he told me about the -- 2 A _ Page 9 of 27, yes. 3 Q If I could just stop you. I think I asked 3 Q_ Allright. And paragraph 23, do you see 4 where were you -- 4 that paragraph? 5 A Oh, I'm sorry. 5 A I see the paragraph. 6 Q_ -- when you had this conversation about 6 Qs Allright. 7 the -- 7 A I was just going to read it over quickly. 8 A Just the island. I'm just trying to 8 Q__sByall means. 9 describe the instance that he gave it to me. 9 A I've read it. 10 Q__ Oh, okay. 10 Q__ And the sentence, Defendant and 11 A __ It was on the island, on the pier in the 11 Ms. Maxwell acknowledged and celebrated plaintiff's 12 Caribbean. 12 16th birthday, is not a true statement, correct? 13 Q_ Okay. And it was sometime before your 13 A Only upon learning about the fact that I 14 19th birthday? 14 just found out my records. I assumed at the time it 15 A Correct. 15 was my 16th birthday. But now we know different. 16 Q How much time before? 16 Q You admit, as you sit here today, that 17 A I don't know. A couple -- six weeks, a 17. defendant and Ms. Maxwell did not celebrate your 16th 18 couple of months. I don't know. Close to my 18 birthday with you, correct? 19 birthday. It was my birthday present, that's what he 19 A Correct, based upon the records. 20 ~~ told me. 20 Q_ Which you don't know when you saw? 21 Q_ Okay. So you don't know when you had this 21 A I know it was, you know, it wasn't -- it 22 conversation? 22 wasn't a year ago, but it wasn't that long ago 23 MR. EDWARDS: Form. 23 either. So I'm not too sure. I can't tell you the 24 A I mean, I -- no, I didn't record the time 24 ~~ date that I actually saw them. 25 and the date, so I can only speculate. It was 25 Q_ Allright. Last year you lived in VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 24 (93 - 96)