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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GonettRe porting Se Wineos/EAc.Page 31 of 89 Page 113 Page 115 1 Q_ Which brother? 1 there's one in Royal Palm and Wellington, and I used 2 A Sky. 2 to go to both. 3 Q_ What about your other brother? 3 Q__ Did you have a card for both? 4 A I think he had moved out by then. 4 A Did I have a card? 5 Q_ What forms of communication did you have? 5 Q_ Alibrary card? 6 Just a home phone number, or what? 6 A Yeah. 7 A Yeah, there was a home phone. 7 Q_ For both places? 8 Q_ When do you recall ever getting a cell 8 A To be able to rent out a book, yeah. 9 phone? 9 Q_ Okay. So the best of your recollection is 10 A __ The first cell phone I ever got was the 10 you used one of your library cards at one of those 11 one that Ghislaine gave to me. 11 two libraries to check out a book on massage and 12 Q_ So you never had -- your parents, did they 12 anatomy? 13. have ones when you were working at Mar-a-Lago? 13 A Correct. 14 A No, my dad used to -- like, we had phones 14 Q_ And when did you do that relative to 15 in the spa and maintenance area and so on, so forth. 15 starting at Mar-a-Lago? 16 And you could, so to speak, page people from around 16 A __ Probably within the first week. I mean, I 17. the courts. 17. saw what the massage therapists got to do. I mean, 18 Q_ Okay. So tell me what you recall of the 18 their jobs were so relaxing. The music, like the 19 first conversation that you had with Ghislaine 19 atmosphere, they always had happy clients. It just 20 Maxwell. 20 seems like an ideal job. 21 A __ I'm sitting there reading my book about 21 Q_ And so you were spurred to go to the 22 massage therapy, as I'm working in the spa. And I'm 22 library and check out a book? 23 getting my GE -- well, I was in the process of 23 A Well, I had been talking with the other 24 getting my GED before I went to my summer job. I 24 massage therapists and they're the ones who first 25 decided that I would like to become a massage 25 intrigued me about what they do. And, you know, I Page 114 Page 116 1. therapist one day. And the body really intrigued me, 1 wanted to aim for something higher than being a 2 you know, reading this massage was a lot about 2 locker room attendant one day. And. Yeah. 3. anatomy, blood flow. Everything to do with, you 3 Q_ What was the name of the massage therapist 4 know, touching somebody somewhere and then triggering 4 that you were speaking with? 5 aresult somewhere else. I just was very intrigued 5 A Oh, I have no idea. 6 by the whole anatomy thing. 6 Q_ Can you give me any physical description 7 She came up, Ghislaine, sorry. Ghislaine 7 of any of them? 8 came up and approached me at the desk that I was 8 A Um, there was one who had blonde short 9 _ sitting at. And my book was like this (indicating) 9 hair. There was -- I would say there's probably 10 and she said, Oh, you're reading a book about 10 about four massage therapists that work in there. a1 massage. You want to do massage? And I told her, 11 So, I mean, I don't remember all of them. 12. Yes, you know, I'm very interested in it. One day I 12 Qs Okay. What time of day was it? 13 would like to become a masseuse. 13 MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 14 Q_ Allright. Where did you get the book on 14 A __ Afternoon. 15 massage? 15 Q._ (BY MS. MENNINGER) How late? 16 A Maybe the library. 16 A Anywhere between 2 to 4. 17 Qs Maybe or do you recall? 17 Q_ And what time did you get off of work? 18 A I don't think I purchased it. So I'd have 18 A I believe I got off at 5. 19 to say the library. 19 Q_ And what was the rest of your conversation 20 Q. Okay. What library was that? 20 with Ms. Maxwell? 21 A Whichever library was close to my house. 21 I'm sorry, I don't think you finished. 22 Q__ Do you remember a library being close to 22 A Thank you. Well, she noticed I was 23 +your house? 23 reading the massage book. And I started to have 24 A There's one in Wellington that I used to 24 chitchat with her just about, you know, the body and 25. goto. Oh, no, there's one in Royal Palm. Yeah, 25 the anatomy and how I was interested in it. And she VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 29 (113 - 116)