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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GonettReQorsin gfe Wieop/Enc.Page 46 of 89 Page 173 Page 175 1 A I wouldn't say directly. 1 between the ages of eighth grade and when you started 2 Q How -- 2 working at Mar-a-Lago? 3 A __ I'd say I stayed with my parents for -- 3 A Besides the ones I've told you about, you 4 like, I think I finished school at Crestwood. Sol 4 know, I did run away from Growing Together quite 5 would have been in, I don't know, I guess eighth 5 often. And I did end up being -- being abused by 6 grade, finished eighth grade. And then -- I don't 6 another older guy who I stayed with for I don't know 7 know. I really don't know. Around eighth grade. 7 how long. 8 Q You went to Growing Together? 8 Q___How old were you then? 9 A I think -- I think it was then. 9 A I don't know. I'm sorry. I really wish I 10 Q_ And how many years did you live at Growing 10 could pinpoint dates. I don't know dates. 11 Together? 11 Q_ Okay. What was that man's name? 12 A Over a year. 12 A Ronald Effinger. 13 Q Were you ever in foster care? 13 Q_ And how long were you living -- were you 14 A What Growing Together was, was like a 14 living with Ronald Effinger? 15 group home that sent you away to foster parents every 15 A Yes. 16 night. 16 Q__ And for how long were you living with him? 17 Q__ So you lived in other people's homes 17 A I don't know. 18 during the period of time you were assigned to 18 Q. Days? Weeks? Months? 19 Growing Together? 19 A I don't know. I mean, it wasn't days. I 20 A Well, you stayed at Growing Together 20 don't think it was weeks. It would have been close 21 during the day and then at night you get sent home 21 to maybe a few months. 22 with parents. 22 Q_ Okay. And was Ronald Effinger prosecuted 23 Q__ Did you go to school while you were at 23 by federal authorities in South Florida? 24 Growing Together? 24 A Yes. 25 A Yeah, they offer education there. 25 Q_ And you were located by the FBI, I Page 174 Page 176 1 Q__ So the education was at Growing Together? 1 believe? 2 A Yeah. 2 A Yes. 3 Qs You did not attend a Palm Beach County -- 3 Q_ And you gave an interview to the FBI 4 A I did, but you had to earn your levels up 4 concerning your time with Ronald Effinger, correct? 5 to be able to go outside. So I don't remember what 5 A Yes. 6 level you have to get up to, to go out to another 6 Q __sDid you ever get a victim's notification 7 school. I think there was like seven levels or 7 letter regarding your status as a victim in Ronald 8 something. And you had to make it to, like, level 4 8 Effinger's federal criminal prosecution? 9 to be able to go to outside school. 9 A I don't know. My parents handled 10 Q__ So for some period of time you were 10 everything. 11 assigned to Growing Together and you were going to 11 Q___Do you know if your parents received such 12 school at Growing Together. And for some period of 12 a letter? 13. time you were going to other schools and coming back | 13 A I don't know. 14 to Growing Together? 14 Q__ Have you ever asked them? 15 A Correct. 15 A __ No, I've never really brought it up with 16 Q__ And then when you came back to Growing 16 them. It really pissed them off a lot, so I never 17. Together, you were sent to spend the night at a 17 brought it up with them. 18 family's home? 18 Q __It pissed them off that you were living 19 A Yes. 19 with Ronald Effinger? 20 Q So you never slept at Growing Together? 20 A Yes. 21 A No. 21 Q_ Why did it piss them off, if you know? 22 Q__ Did you live -- other than living at or 22 A Well, I think they were just disgusted, 23. staying at Growing Together during the day and 23 you know, that this happened to me again. And they 24 sleeping at these other homes at night, is there 24 didn't want to talk about it. They didn't want to 25 anywhere else that you recall living in the period 25 talk about it. VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 44 (173 - 176)