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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GaonettRe porting fe Wineos/EAc.Page 51 of 89 Page 193 Page 195 1 think I met Prince Andrew in 2001. And Glenn Dubin 1 Q __ If you're going to tell me more names, 2 and Stephen Kaufmann were, like I said, the first 2 please continue your answer. 3. people I was sent out to after my training. So 1 3 A __ I'm trying to think. 4 don't know. I'm not going to give you an exact time 4 Q __ If you're just going to talk -- 5 if I don't know it. 5 A I'msorry. I'm trying to think. 6 Q__Iasked you the relative order. 6 Q_ Okay. Let's take a break and then you can 7 A And I'm trying to give you it. 7 think over the break. 8 Q_ And where does Alan Dershowitz fit into 8 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're off the record at 9 that group of people? 9 2:01. 10 A Same. I can't tell you piece by piece by 10 (Recess taken from 2:01 p.m. to 2:09 p.m.) 11 piece who -- I know Glenn Dubin was first. 11 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're back on the 12 Q_ Okay. 12 record at 2:09. 13 A And I know Stephen Kaufmann was one of the 13 Q (BY MS. MENNINGER) Ms. Giuffre, you have 14 first I was sent to. Alan Dershowitz could have been 14 filed a lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell, correct? 15 between there. Between, sorry, between Glenn and 15 A Yes. 16 Stephen. The first time I was with Alan Dershowitz 16 QQ. You understand her to be my client, 17. was in New York, so I wasn't actually sent to him. 17 correct? 18 It actually happened at one of Jeffrey's residences. 18 A Yes. 19 (Ms. McCawley left the deposition.) 19 Q I'm here today to talk to you about your 20 A __ Soit's very hard for me to 20 allegations against Ghislaine Maxwell. 21 chronologically give you each person individually. 21 Do you understand that? 22 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) Okay. Name the other | 22 A Yes. 23 politically connected and financially powerful people | 23 QI want you to tell me a single time that 24 that Ghislaine Maxwell told you to go have sex with? |24 you recall Ghislaine Maxwell using words to you and 25 A __ Again, I'm going to tell you "they" 25 directing you to go have sex with another person -- Page 194 Page 196 1 because that's how it went. They instructed me to go 1 MR. EDWARDS: Object. 2 to George Mitchell, Jean Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, 2 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) -- not anybody else, 3 another prince that I don't know his name. A guy 3 Ghislaine Maxwell? 4 that owns a hotel, a really large hotel chain, I 4 MR. EDWARDS: Objection. Asked and 5 can't remember which hotel it was. Marvin Minsky. 5 answered. 6 There was, you know, another foreign 6 To the extent that she can answer the 7 president, I can't remember his name. He was 7 question, I'd ask that she answer the question. 8 Spanish. There's a whole bunch of them that I 8 A Ihave answered the question. The 9 just -- it's hard for me to remember all of them. 9 question that you're asking me is Ghislaine. And 10 You know, I was told to do something by these people 10 Ghislaine and Jeffrey worked together. They were one 11 constantly, told to -- my whole life revolved around 11 and the same of persons. They both directed me to do 12 just pleasing these men and keeping Ghislaine and 12 this. They both directed me to report back to them. 13 Jeffrey happy. Their whole entire lives revolved 13 They were both the same. 14 around sex. 14 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) You cannot recall a 15 They call massages sex. They call 15 single instance in which Ghislaine -- 16 modeling sex. They call -- 16 A [have to -- 17 Q__ I asked you the names for people. Are you 17 Q_ Excuse me. 18 going to tell me any other names or is that all of 18 -- in which Ghislaine Maxwell alone 19 them? 19 directed you to have sex with another person -- 20 A I'mtrying to think. That's the answer 20 A [have to -- 21 I'm trying to give to you. It's that it's so hard to 21 Q_ -- correct? 22 just keep naming and naming and naming. 22 A -- believe -- 23 Qs Allright. 23 MR. EDWARDS: Object. 24 A A lot of times I would be introduced to 24 MS. MENNINGER: I am going to finish my 25 them. I didn't know -- 25 question. VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 49 (193 - 196)