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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GaonettReporsin g fe Wineos/EAc.Page 56 of 89 Page 213 Page 215 1 Q_ Okay. How far away are the boxes from 1 We've had lots of bonfires there. 2 where you live in Australia? 2 Q__Did you ever ride in a helicopter with 3 A __ Sydney is down here at the bottom. Cairns 3 Ghislaine Maxwell acting as pilot of the helicopter? 4 is up here at the top. 4 A Yes. 5 Q_ Okay. 5 Q_ Who else was on the flight? 6 A It's probably a six-day drive. 6 A __ I've been on the helicopter with her 7 Q__ Did you fly here through Sydney? 7 plenty of times. I can't mention how many people 8 A No. 8 were on the -- on the helicopter at the same time. 9 Q__ Have you been to Sydney since you've moved 9 Q How many times? 10 back to Australia? 10 A I don't know. Do you have helicopter 11 A __ I flew into Sydney with my three kids, but 11 records that you could show me? 12 it was a connecting flight to Brisbane. 12 Q__sI'masking you how many times you were on 13 Q__sDid you ask your nephews or anyone else to 13 the helicopter with Ghislaine Maxwell acting as the 14 search those boxes in response to discovery requests | 14 pilot -- 15 that we issued in this case? 15 A __ It's impossible for me to answer the 16 A They are my nephews. I would never let 16 question without having the actual physical records 17. them look at those. 17 _ in front of me. 18 Q_s Other than your green spiral notebook, 18 Q__I'masking you to look into your memory 19 what else did you burn in this bonfire in 2013? 19 and tell me how many times you recall being ona 20 A That was it. 20 helicopter with Ghislaine Maxwell at the pilot seat? 21 Q__ That's the only thing? 21 A __ There is no number I can give you. 22 A Yes. 22 There's plenty of times I've been on her helicopter. 23 Q__+Did you use wood? 23 Q_ Where did you go from and to ona 24 A Yes. 24 helicopter? 25 Q_ Charcoal? 25 A __ I believe it was -- don't quote me on this Page 214 Page 216 1 A My husband built the bonfire out of wood 1 because I get confused on the islands there. I want 2 and I don't know what else he put in it. He's the 2 to say it was St. John's. It could have been 3. one who always makes the fires, not me. 3 St. Barts. St. John or St. Barts, and then we would 4 Q__Who else was present? 4 — fly straight to Jeffrey's island. 5 A Just him and I. 5 Q_. Okay. Did you ever go anywhere else on 6 Q_ Were your kids there? 6 the helicopter? 7 A No. They were inside sleeping. 7 A No. 8 Q_ And what beach was this? 8 Q_ Were you ever on the helicopter with Bill 9 A It wasn't a beach. It was in my backyard. 9 Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell as the pilot of the 10 Q_ What's your address? 10 helicopter? 11 A At that time? 11 A No. 12 Q Um-hum. 12 Q_ Were you ever on the helicopter with Bill 13 A a. 13 Clinton's Secret Service and Ghislaine Maxwell as the 14 Q 14 pilot? 15 A Yes. 15 A No. 16 Q_ Who were your neighbors? 16 Q___ Do you recall telling Sharon Churcher that 17 A Sweet people. Ray and -- I could look on 17. ~you were? 18 ~~ my phone if you want. 18 A No. 19 Q___No, thank you. Do they still live there? 19 Q__ Did you see the press article in which 20 A Yes. 20 Sharon Churcher reported that you were? 21 Q__ Do you keep in touch with them? 21 MR. EDWARDS: Objection. I'd just ask 22 A Last time I talked to them was a few 22 that if you're going to ask this witness about a 23 months ago. 23 specific article I'd like for her to see the article. 24 Q __sDid they see the fire? 24 Otherwise she's not going to testify about it. 25 A They've seen many fires that we've had. 25 If you have something to show her, then, VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 54 (213 - 216)